Re: Oracle Right or Wrong

On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 06:25:03 +1000, "Howard J. Rogers" <howardjr2000_at_yahoo.com.au> wrote:

It takes a big man to admit that 'round here, Rog!

Tomorrow's Topic: "GUI - Real Men Don't Do Scripts"

>Psst! Keep this to yourself, Mike... but I use SQL Server at home for
>several small databases I have, and I rather like it as a DBMS. Dead easy
>to set up and get going. I like not having to code triggers to get simple
>incrementing sequence numbers for tables.
>
>But federated databases? Accessed by a bunch of UNION queries?! Pah!! RAC
>knocks that idea into a cocked hat.
>
>So, yeah: horses for courses, and you'd have to be a bit of a looney to
>claim that there's only one decent product out there. OTOH, I'm not entirely
>certain that we get a lot of that round here. Partisan support for the
>product this newsgroup is all about, sure. But blinkered belief in 'Oracle
>right or wrong'.... don't think so. But I could be wrong....
>
>Regards
>HJR
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>"Mike Dwyer" <bdtmike_at_sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:3da33803.172663517_at_news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
>> Over the past several months, I've been learning the in's and out's of
>> Oracle programming so that I could port my application over from SQL
>> Server. I have received a great deal of help from people in the know,
>> and in large part, from these Oracle forums. I find the UseNet to be
>> invaluable for getting near-instantaneous feedback from people who are
>> out in the real world experiencing the same things that I am.
>> Although I've been developing in many languages over the past 20
>> years, I'm a newbie to Oracle. As such, I appreciate the constructive
>> advice that many of you have given me even though my basic questions
>> may have been answered many times over. So, I thank you for all the
>> free advice I've been "taking" from this forum.
>>
>> That said, I've been active in a number of forums in my years but I've
>> never seen the level of arrogance and closed mindedness that I see
>> from some members of this forum. This posting isn't directed towards
>> the people who put forward constructive advice and criticism. This is
>> directed towards the people who seem to worship the Oracle God and
>> spend as much time pontificating as they do giving advice (if any).
>>
>> Is it just me? I can't believe that I'm alone in this observation.
>> If any of you share my opinion, by all means, chime in here. Some of
>> you guys sound like stiff college professors, scolding me for not
>> bringing my "books" to class or disagreeing that Oracle is not the
>> end-all of DBMS's. I read the postings. When people ask questions,
>> they don't always get answers, they get lectures-- and condescending
>> critiques, at that. I run a business, I have questions, I need
>> answers. Those of you are nice enough to take the time out to help
>> me, I thank you. But those who want to lecture and pontificate should
>> save it. Hey, if I wanted a lecture, I'd go back to college! Some of
>> you guys really need to lighten up.
>>
>> As a user trying to understand a new product, I like to read the
>> members' opinions to find out what the strengths and weaknesses of
>> the product are in relation to others in its class. Unfortunately,
>> the discussions are rather one-sided in this forum. And from what
>> I've seen, people are probably afraid to use the "M" word in here for
>> fear they will be flamed and moofed to death (as I will certainly be).
>> Some of you guys sound like "Little Larry Ellisons" running around
>> with noses in the air phrasing every answer to every question with
>> "And that's another reason why Oracle is great and Microsoft sucks.".
>> A little objectivity please...
>>
>> In the interest of debate, can you honestly say that NOTHING that SQL
>> server has to offer is better than what Oracle puts out? Or that
>> there is NO feature that some other DBMS may have that is superior to
>> Oracle? Or that Oracle may have limitations that other products do
>> not? If your answer is a resounding "NO" then I think that some of
>> you need to open your minds a bit.
>>
>> To some of you I'm sure I'm sounding like a jerk here. But to others
>> in the group, I believe that you know what I'm talking about when it
>> comes to the "attitude" in here. In my 3 month long "Trial By Fire",
>> I've come to the conclusion that Oracle is, overall, the most powerful
>> DBMS out there. But there are areas where Oracle lags behind
>> Microsoft and there is room for improvement. I feel like a PC user in
>> a Mac group for saying this, but I'd like to see a little more
>> objectivity and discussion about the pros and cons in here, that's
>> all. God forbid, someone like me admits that in here, but hey, what
>> do I know, I'm just a newbie, right <g>?
>>
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Received on Tue Oct 08 2002 - 15:33:05 CDT