Re: LOST DataBase Password

A rollback segment you claimed wasn't there.

And when asked for proof that it wasn't there, you flounced off in a hissy fit.

Leaving the impression to all and sundry that it was possible to create a database without a system rollback segment. Which as we all now acknowledge, finally, is not true. My gripe was that you had left on record something which was deeply misleading and unhelpful, and never corrected, despite being given the opportunity to correct it.

It's the helpfulnes quotient of posts I'm getting at. That seems to have gone south over the past few months. I have no quarrel with sarcasm (the highest form of wit, in my book) or plain bad-moodism, provided there's some help at the end of it.

Regards
HJR "Daniel Morgan" <dmorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message news:3CD19357.30DE1EE1_at_exesolutions.com...
> "Howard J. Rogers" wrote:
>
> > "RSH" <RSH_Oracle_at_worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:3W4A8.1671$6T5.175549_at_bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > Please, let's skip that shall we?
> > >
> > > You've made your share of comments that I thought were rather more
like
> > > Moses instructing people on the science of carving stone tablets, in
the
> > > event God wasn't available at the moment.
> > >
> >
> > Missing the point entirely, I think. If I have given advice in 'strong'
> > mode, at least I have given advice. Comments such as 'do you have an
> > operating system' or 'that was lethal' give no advice to anyone.
> >
> > Moving on.
> >
> > > I made a comment en passant, and also provided a detailed and helpful
> > > response as well.
> > >
> >
> > Sorry, I must have missed that "helpful response". I saw a post that
said
> > "that was lethal" and that was *all* it said. Whatever.
> >
> > > Remember the first part of the phrase that ends with "...cast the
first
> > > stone."; it's not in any of the Oracle manuals as yet.
> > >
> >
> > Let me refresh your memory: "I can't say I've never passed the
smart-assed
> > comment to prove my superiority, because I have. And I instantly regret
it
> > the second the SEND button is clicked. But I think I have managed to
avoid
> > the complete put-down; the 'God, you must be stupid' comment; the 'I
know so
> > much I can't be bothered to treat you as someone in need' post."
> >
> > Now, where was the claim of saintliness you seem to imply I was making?
> >
> > HJR
> >
> > > Well maybe 5.0 Beta, that might have been contemporaneous with the
other
> > > book I remember that dictum from.
> > >
> > > RSH.
> > >
> > > "Howard J. Rogers" <dba_at_hjrdba.com> wrote in message
> > > news:aaql19$nc9$1_at_lust.ihug.co.nz...
> > > > "RSH" <RSH_Oracle_at_worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:bw4A8.1654$6T5.171879_at_bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > > > That was lethal.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > And that's a good thing?
> > > >
> > > > Honestly: I've spent the better part of my professional life trying
to
> > > help
> > > > people. I can't say I've never passed the smart-assed comment to
prove
> > my
> > > > superiority, because I have. And I instantly regret it the second
the
> > SEND
> > > > button is clicked.
> > > >
> > > > But I think I have managed to avoid the complete put-down; the 'God,
you
> > > > must be stupid' comment; the 'I know so much I can't be bothered to
> > treat
> > > > you as someone in need' post.
> > > >
> > > > Can't we just try and be helpful or silent?
> > > >
> > > > HJR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > "Daniel Morgan" <dmorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3CCEF5F4.24CA0DA5_at_exesolutions.com...
> > > > > > kashveti wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > i have setup oracle server 9, designed a database, but lost
my
> > > > > > > password to it. Now i can't get an access to my database
files.
> > does
> > > > > > > anybody knows how to change password manualy or maybe it is
> > recorded
> > > > > > > in some .log files? HELP PLEASE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If Howard's suggestion does not work ... Do you have an operatin
g
> > > system
> > > > > > on your computer?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Daniel Morgan
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
> Just to beat this to death.
>
> My point was not to be insulting. But rather that if we knew what
operating
> system the person had it would be possible to offer some additional
advice. For
> example if it was on a Windows platform using ORADIM to recreate the
internal
> password. ORADIM would not get you very far with Solaris.
>
> However Howard ... I do recall you beating a certain rollback segment into
a
> near catatonic state and over a period of more than two years. So welcome
to the
> party.
>
> Daniel Morgan
>
Received on Thu May 02 2002 - 16:56:24 CDT