Re: error while installing on tru64

OK, I think I see what they're trying to do. HA without RAC i.e. two (or more) node cluster, database on shared disk, node 1 dies and they restart the database and the listener on node 2 yeh?

If that's the case, I still don't see why they said install on two nodes. A CFS is a CFS is a CFS. Why would anyone want to fake it when they have the real thing already built in the OS? It'd be like building you own replication, complete with your own conflict detection and resolution, when you already have a site license for EE. Sounds like they're not taking advantage of the technology they already have. Having said that, I went to one site in the Middle East where they set up (perfectly) replication from one node of a cluster to another node for machine failover. ;)

As for Oracle supporting other CFS's, when the hardware vendors put it in the OS layer, we would probably support it unless there's a problem with it e.g. I think we don't support database files on Sun's equivalent (mental blank due to the late hour on what it's called - global file systems or something similar?) because it simply doesn't perform well enough.

Pete
In article <IZLl8.18654$DE4.2400_at_afrodite.telenet-ops.be>, "koert54" says...
>
>> What was the exact problem? Did it pick up the CFS and you overrode it to
>> install in mulitple places?
>Correctomundo - that was the problem - the ct wanted a mutual takeover setup
>with Tru64 on CFS - they didn't
>want Oracle 8i OPS or 9i RAC. Now - the installer detects the cluster
>manager and the available nodes.
>The system engineer working on it automatically thought he/she had to select
>the 2 nodes. When doing so things got
>screwed up because both nodes can see *every* filesystem ( $ORACLE_HOME and
>root include ) ... so things
>go wrong while copying from the install media to disk and the linking
>completely fails ;-)
>Apart from that - I still think CFS is the coolest thing out there and I
>hope Oracle will incorperate it in all
>their future RAC implementations ...
>
>
>"Pete Sharman" <peter.sharman_at_oracle.com> wrote in message
>news:a7800g0ogj_at_drn.newsguy.com...
>> In article <3c974179$0$7110$4d4efb8e_at_news.be.uu.net>, "koert54" says...
>> >
>> >>In fact, on Tru64 you don't even need to install to
>> >> multiple nodes if you're using a clustered file system.
>> >
>> >That was exactly the problem we had - with clustered file system you only
>> >need to install on 1 node.
>> >Choosing multiple nodes in the installer + CFS = problemmo !
>> >
>> What was the exact problem? Did it pick up the CFS and you overrode it to
>> install in mulitple places? I haven't tried that but I'm not aware of any
>> problems with it.
>> >
>> >"Pete Sharman" <Pete_member_at_newsguy.com> wrote in message
>> >news:a757nv0i80_at_drn.newsguy.com...
>> >> Not sure why you had a problem installing to multiple nodes. It's
>worked
>> >> sweetly for me every time. In fact, on Tru64 you don't even need to
>> >install to
>> >> multiple nodes if you're using a clustered file system. If you're not,
>> >then did
>> >> you check your oracle account has the same un/pw on each node? On
>> >clusters that
>> >> aren't using a CFS, what the installer does is install locally then rcp
>to
>> >every
>> >> other node you choose to install on.
>> >>
>> >> Going back to the original message, this will never work (at least not
>> >with
>> >> today's technology). You can't cluster two different OS's together.
>End
>> >of
>> >> story.
>> >>
>> >> Pete
>> >>
>> >> In article <3c95f7af$0$7108$4d4efb8e_at_news.be.uu.net>, "koert54" says...
>> >> >
>> >> >Hmmm ... can't help you there ...
>> >> >
>> >> >I had a problem on a Tru64 cluster just 2 weeks ago - the installer
>> >detects
>> >> >the
>> >> >available nodes. If selecting more than the local node things go
>wrong.
>> >> >However, your problem looks entirely different.
>> >> >Without a snippet of your install.log, no one will be able to help you
>> >...
>> >> >
>> >> >btw - what's the deal with your cluster - Tru64 + Linux in one
>cluster -
>> >I
>> >> >don't see
>> >> >how this can work ? Why don't you stick with Tru64 and make use
>Clustered
>> >> >Filesystems ????
>> >> >
>> >> >"Sławomir Marcinkowski" <s.marcinkowski_at_Bankier.pl> wrote in message
>> >> >news:a74rth$t4q$1_at_news.tpi.pl...
>> >> >> the machines (2) are clustered (hardware) but where is no cluster
>> >support
>> >> >in
>> >> >> operation system. On one machine is tru64 and on second (now is off)
>> >will
>> >> >be
>> >> >> linux with apache :).
>> >> >> ps
>> >> >> this is 9i EE
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Użytkownik "koert54" <nospam_at_nospam.com> napisał w wiadomości
>> >> >> news:3c95efd1$0$7109$4d4efb8e_at_news.be.uu.net...
>> >> >> > is this on a tru64 cluster ?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Sławomir Marcinkowski" <s.marcinkowski_at_Bankier.pl> wrote in
>message
>> >> >> > news:a74qje$ghf$1_at_news.tpi.pl...
>> >> >> > > i tried install oracle 9i on tru64. i did everythink (i suppose)
>> >what
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > > installation guide,
>> >> >> > > but while installation process a had linking error for
>ins_rdbms.mk
>> >> >> file.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > what do i wrong?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > SM
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > ps
>> >> >> > > i had the same problem whith 8i and 9i for linux, but changing
>> >> >binutils
>> >> >> > > version resolved my problem.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> HTH. Additions and corrections welcome.
>> >>
>> >> Pete
>> >>
>> >> SELECT standard_disclaimer, witty_remark FROM company_requirements;
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> HTH. Additions and corrections welcome.
>>
>> Pete
>>
>> SELECT standard_disclaimer, witty_remark FROM company_requirements;
>>
>
>

HTH. Additions and corrections welcome.

Pete

SELECT standard_disclaimer, witty_remark FROM company_requirements; Received on Wed Mar 20 2002 - 00:26:40 CST