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REPOST: Re: Lost oracle database but have the datafiles

From: Kev <java2e_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 03:41:44 -0800
Message-ID: <3$--$$-$-_$-%_$$%$@news.noc.cabal.int>


Ah, well that is the problem I only had those files not all. The system became corrupted when the HD failed as did the rest those where the only 2 file I copied previously.

I htink I got yeah. Next time I will be more careful and make darn sure I have a automated backup system.

First time is ok the second time Im an idiot.

Thank you again!

Kev

On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:22:36 GMT, "koert54" <koert54_at_nospam.com> wrote:

>one moment here :
>
>These files are from the same database
> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\SYSTEM01.DBF',
> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\RBS01.DBF',
> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\USERS01.DBF',
> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\TEMP01.DBF',
> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\TOOLS01.DBF',
> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\INDX01.DBF',
> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\DR01.DBF',
>AS
>these files :
>'F:\oracle\oradata\k2\MAIN01.ORA',
>'F:\oracle\oradata\k2\MAIN02.ORA',
>????????????????????
>
>You'll have to copy ALL database files from your backup to your second
>machine and insert them in the controlfile....
>If you create the dummy database - remove all the database files belonging
>to the dummy DB first (the dummy DB was just there
>to create an easy dump of the controlfile to start with - nothing more !)
>
>
>"Kev" <java2e_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:15503ucr4ebj01i4uo2fk656etds8b4j4v_at_4ax.com...
>> Here is the error that come back. I guess I just lost it and will
>> ahve to resort to the last 12 days. BUMMER.
>>
>> I you think I can still get it out let me know.
>>
>>
>>
>> ORA-01503: CREATE CONTROLFILE failed
>> ORA-01159: file is not from same database as previous files - wrong
>> database id
>>
>> Sun Dec 30 23:37:06 2001
>> CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE "K2" RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
>> MAXLOGFILES 32
>> MAXLOGMEMBERS 2
>> MAXDATAFILES 32
>> MAXINSTANCES 16
>> MAXLOGHISTORY 1815
>> LOGFILE
>> GROUP 1 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\REDO03a.LOG' SIZE 1M,
>> GROUP 2 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\REDO02a.LOG' SIZE 1M,
>> GROUP 3 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\REDO01a.LOG' SIZE 1M
>> DATAFILE
>> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\SYSTEM01.DBF',
>> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\RBS01.DBF',
>> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\USERS01.DBF',
>> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\TEMP01.DBF',
>> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\TOOLS01.DBF',
>> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\INDX01.DBF',
>> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\DR01.DBF',
>> 'F:\oracle\oradata\k2\MAIN01.ORA',
>> 'F:\oracle\oradata\k2\MAIN02.ORA',
>> CHARACTER SET WE8ISO8859P1
>>
>> Sun Dec 30 23:37:09 2001
>> ORA-1503 signalled during: CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE "K2"
>> RESETLOGS N...
>>
>> The main01 and 02 are the ones I want to get the data out of.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kev
>>
>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:10:46 GMT, "koert54" <koert54_at_nospam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >could you post the alert.log concerning the message ...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Kev" <java2e_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:b52v2uglck8f6amnafrvsiri0dm4n2d00h_at_4ax.com...
>> >> I just ran this and I keep getting an error that says this was created
>> >> with a different redolog files?
>> >>
>> >> I dont have a copy of the redos.
>> >>
>> >> What did I miss?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks again!
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 20:06:50 GMT, "koert54" <koert54_at_nospam.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >cool - so you just have the datafiles and no controlfiles, no redologs
>> >and
>> >> >no init.ora
>> >> >
>> >> >if you did a shutdown (other than abort) the database checkpointed and
>is
>> >> >consistent - so no redologs are
>> >> >needed for instance recovery.
>> >> >
>> >> >what I should do in this case is :
>> >> >1. on the new machine create a dummy database (this should make it
>easier
>> >to
>> >> >create init.ora and a controlfile)
>> >> >2. issue - 'alter database backup controlfile to trace ;'
>> >> >This will generate a dump of the controlfile of the dummy database (in
>> >> >$ORACLE_HOME/admin/<SID>/udump)- it looks like this :
>> >> >*** 2001-12-30 20:53:53.150
>> >> ># The following commands will create a new control file and use it
>> >> ># to open the database.
>> >> ># Data used by the recovery manager will be lost. Additional logs may
>> >> ># be required for media recovery of offline data files. Use this
>> >> ># only if the current version of all online logs are available.
>> >> >STARTUP NOMOUNT
>> >> >CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE "PO" NORESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
>> >> > MAXLOGFILES 32
>> >> > MAXLOGMEMBERS 2
>> >> > MAXDATAFILES 254
>> >> > MAXINSTANCES 1
>> >> > MAXLOGHISTORY 899
>> >> >LOGFILE
>> >> > GROUP 1 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\REDO01.LOG' SIZE 1M,
>> >> > GROUP 2 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\REDO02.LOG' SIZE 1M,
>> >> > GROUP 3 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\REDO03.LOG' SIZE 1M
>> >> >DATAFILE
>> >> > 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\SYSTEM01.DBF',
>> >> > 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\RBS01.DBF',
>> >> > 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\DUL01.DBF'
>> >> >CHARACTER SET WE8ISO8859P1
>> >> >;
>> >> ># Recovery is required if any of the datafiles are restored backups,
>> >> ># or if the last shutdown was not normal or immediate.
>> >> >RECOVER DATABASE
>> >> ># Database can now be opened normally.
>> >> >ALTER DATABASE OPEN;
>> >> ># Commands to add tempfiles to temporary tablespaces.
>> >> ># Online tempfiles have complete space information.
>> >> ># Other tempfiles may require adjustment.
>> >> >ALTER TABLESPACE TEMP ADD TEMPFILE 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\TEMP01.DBF'
>> >REUSE;
>> >> ># End of tempfile additions.
>> >> >#
>> >> >3. shutdown the dummy database and remove all of it's files except
>> >init.ora
>> >> >
>> >> >4. copy the backup of your datafiles to disk
>> >> >
>> >> >5. edit the dump of the controlfile (remove all crap)
>> >> >a. NORESETLOGS should become RESETLOGS
>> >> >b. set the DATABASE <SID> correctly
>> >> >c. edit the DATAFILE clause to confirm with the copy of your datafiles
>> >> >d. edit the LOGFILE clause to whatever you like (it's ok if you don't
>> >have
>> >> >the redologs)
>> >> >e. rename the dump to control.sql
>> >> >
>> >> >STARTUP NOMOUNT
>> >> >CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE "PO" NORESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
>> >> > MAXLOGFILES 32
>> >> > MAXLOGMEMBERS 2
>> >> > MAXDATAFILES 254
>> >> > MAXINSTANCES 1
>> >> > MAXLOGHISTORY 899
>> >> >LOGFILE
>> >> > GROUP 1 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\REDO01.LOG' SIZE 1M,
>> >> > GROUP 2 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\REDO02.LOG' SIZE 1M,
>> >> > GROUP 3 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\REDO03.LOG' SIZE 1M
>> >> >DATAFILE
>> >> > 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\SYSTEM01.DBF',
>> >> > 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\RBS01.DBF',
>> >> > 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\DUL01.DBF'
>> >> >CHARACTER SET WE8ISO8859P1
>> >> >;
>> >> >
>> >> >5. edit init.ora of the dummy database - you should change DB_NAME,
>> >> >INSTANCE_NAME, CONTROL_FILES, etc to comply with the backup
>> >> >of your database
>> >> >
>> >> >6. svrmgrl
>> >> >connect internal
>> >> >->>>> run control.sql
>> >> >->>>> controlfiles are now create according to CONTROL_FILES parameter
>in
>> >> >init.ora
>> >> >
>> >> >7. alter database open resetlogs ;
>> >> >-->>>> this will create the redologs (see LOGFILE clause control.sql)
>> >> >
>> >> >Howard - you as backup&recovery guru ... can you double check this ? -
>> >I'm
>> >> >pretty sure it'll work as no recovery is needed ....
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Kev" <java2e_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:hmru2ug9vr69lcdp1h9j24itri42uk8cun_at_4ax.com...
>> >> >> I copied the datafiles after I did a shutdown of the server. Then I
>> >> >> rebooted the machine. Then today the harddrive crashed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So I have a clean copy of the datafile. I installed Oracle on
>another
>> >> >> machine and I wanted to move those file to the new installation but
>I
>> >> >> have no idea on how to do it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The other machine oracle was on is dead until I can replace the
>drive.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> but the new machine is good to go.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:46:59 GMT, "koert54" <koert54_at_nospam.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >how did you backup those datafiles ?????
>> >> >> >even if you didn't backup controlfiles and redolog you'll be able
>to
>> >open
>> >> >> >the DB
>> >> >> >if you first did a shutdown other than abort and then copied the
>> >> >datafiles
>> >> >> >....
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >1. copy the datafiles back to your drive
>> >> >> >2. recreate the controlfile (check the create controlfile command)
>> >> >> >3. open the database using resetlogs
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Kev" <java2e_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:l1ru2uk66fa4ci1bb2gjl44rve2ajadqbl_at_4ax.com...
>> >> >> >> Hello Howard,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Here is the problem. I completely lost my harddrive but before I
>> >did
>> >> >> >> about a day ago I saved the datafiles, no idea of why I did it.
>And
>> >> >> >> about 1 week ago I did a export of the schema I care about.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> What I need to do is jsut get one table out of the datafile and
>the
>> >> >> >> rest I dont care about.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I might be abot to get the control files but not the arcive or
>> >redos.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I can run the import to create the structure but I need to pull
>the
>> >> >> >> data from the datafiles if this is at all possible.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Kev
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 06:29:12 +1100, "Howard J. Rogers"
>> >> >> >> <dba_at_hjrdba.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >Kev,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Your post is not entirely clear... Do you have the datafiles as
>> >your
>> >> >post
>> >> >> >> >title suggests, or do you merely have an export file as your
>post
>> >> >> >contents
>> >> >> >> >suggests?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >If you have the datafiles themselves, do you have a control file
>as
>> >> >well?
>> >> >> >> >And do you have archives? Because if that's all true, then you
>can
>> >> >> >perform
>> >> >> >> >a standard incomplete recovery and get all your data back,
>except
>> >for
>> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >last little bit that was in the current online redo log.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >If all you've got is the export file, then you'll have to create
>a
>> >> >brand
>> >> >> >new
>> >> >> >> >database from scratch, and run import to get the data back as it
>> >was
>> >> >at
>> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >time you took the export. The easiest way to proceed in that
>> >> >eventuality
>> >> >> >> >would be to manually create all the right tablespaces (and
>users),
>> >and
>> >> >> >then
>> >> >> >> >leave import to create all the tables, indexes and so on, and
>> >populate
>> >> >> >them.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Regards
>> >> >> >> >HJR
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
>

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