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Re: Fragmented tablespace

From: John P. Higgins <jh33378_at_deere.com>
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 12:56:23 -0600
Message-ID: <36E56ED6.D5A08DDA@deere.com>


If you do actually need to reorg, you should try to make changes that reduce the need for future reorgs. Like: All extents should be power of 2 times 64K (eg 64K 128K 256K 512K 1M 2M 4M ...).

Peter Sharman wrote:

> Neil
>
> Are you **sure** you don't work for Platinum? ;)
>
> There are a number of tools that provide mechanisms for doing what the original
> poster asked for, some of them from Oracle, some from third party vendors like
> Platinum, Compuware etc. All of them are basically means of automating a
> reload. I know of no tool that is capable of doing reloads without making the
> table unavailable for at least some time. However, you'd really need to look
> at WHY the reload is necessary. There was a whole thread on this not so long
> ago, so I'm not going to rehash the arguments there. It may be worthwhile to
> search back through these messages to see if it's actually necessary to perform
> the reload in the first place.
>
> HTH.
>
> Pete
>
> Neil Cudd wrote:
>
> > I'd be surprised. De-fragmentation is the act of unloading the blocks and
> > then reloading them in larger contiguous extents. You must drop the object
> > to reload it.
> >
> > As for tools. I'm working on a db at the moment which is 162GB and grows at
> > a rate
> > of 1gb per week. For reorgs we have a tool frrom platinum called TSREORG.
> >
> > This has a fast unload option and since we use it on an 8 way Unix server
> > we unload and reload using 6 threads. The last big reorg I did was 29gb of
> > data tablespace and it managed it in just under 9hrs. That includes all the
> > index rebuilds.
> >
> > honestly, I DONT work for platinum, but it's a damn good product.
> >
> > Des Collins wrote in message <36E53576.34E8_at_bt.removeme.com>...
> > >Dear All,
> > >
> > >Is there a way of de-fragmenting a large tablespace (+2g) without
> > >re-creating it. Are there any tools out there that lets you do this.
> > >
> > >Any help / suggestions appreciated
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >--
> > >Des Collins
> > >UK
> > >
> > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > These are my views and NOT those of my empoyer.
> > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> --
>
> Regards
>
> Pete
>
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