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Re: DBAs please read this!!!

From: Joel Garry <joelga_at_pebble.ml.org>
Date: 1997/12/30
Message-ID: <68c3rj$mh1$1@pebble.ml.org>#1/1

In article <34a86011.4874071_at_news.iag.net>, Eric Evans <etevans_at_iag.net> wrote:
>Eva,
>The way suggested doing should be OK in certain circumstances.
>However, the supported way is the best way and one that you will have
>to do to get support if you run into problems with the install. While
>I understand your problem and if I was in your shoes I might do the
>same thing if I had a large number of machines of the same
>configuration to install. But from the support side it becomes
>difficult when you have every customer doing installs in there own way
>and expecting the support person to figure out what when wrong (i.e.
>permissions, missing files, scripts that did not get run,...). There
>is another way which would be supported - create a staging area and
>move (tar, ftp, NFS) that to machine you want to install on and do the
>install from there
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>Eric Evans
>
>On Thu, 25 Dec 1997 21:14:46 -0600, Evan Cao <ecao_at_ti.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a very symple quetion for you guys. It sound so simple. But
>>it will help me a lot. I was frustrated, technically humiliated, and
>>confused.
>> My question is that WHAT IS RIGHT WAY TO INSTALL ORACLE?
>>
>> Of course, follow the instructions on the Installation Guide is one
>>way. It surely be a
>>officially supported and recommended way.
>>
>> In the real world, however, due to all kinds of reasons, people DO
>>NOT do this way.
>> The following is the way I am tring to convince those people NOT do,
>>but I failed to.
>>
>> For Sun Machines: OS level Solaris 2.5( OS version is same)
>>
>> step 1 Install ORACLE on SPARC 20 in the ORACLE Recommaned way.
>> step 2 Tar the whole $ORACLE_HOME
>> step 3 ftp to a new SUN machine ( OS is same as in step 1, but
>>machine be different
>> say ES 6000 or some higher than SPARC 10)
>> step 4 untar
>> step 5 finished ( even did not remake!!!)
>>
>> What bothered me is that when I called ORACLE tech support, the
>>answer is that it
>>is NOT supported, but they know in real world people do this way. They
>>do not have
>>any official word about this practice.
>> I have a email from a local ORACLE office confirm that this is way
>>is fine.
>>
>>
>> My question for you all is that
>>
>> What am supposed to do?
>> If you guys see this kind of practice, did ever experieced big
>>problem? If you do, please email me. So far I noticed
>> 1. 600 ERRORS all over our instances ( This might not be the result
>>of this practice, but for me it might be thr culprit)
>> 2. One some machine, when create tablespace, it hang the whole
>>machine. No respose even hit return untill the create tablespace finish.
>>
>>I will be very appriciated if can responde this MSG.

There are a number of things that are interdependent between Oracle and the machine. If any one of those things is different, it won't work. Most of the times I've seen this problem, it was simply fixed by following the directions. Of course, no one would call me if there wasn't a problem.

I saw several cases where it was as simple as a link to a different compiler. You just never know what exists on a machine before you get there, that's why Oracle has to figure it out. And it isn't even smart enough to know you have a wrong compiler. So tell them to FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS!

Need more details for the #2 - sounds like some kind of priority problem.

>>
>>Thanks again
>>
>>
>>ecao_at_ti.com
>>
>

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Received on Tue Dec 30 1997 - 00:00:00 CST

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