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Re: Tip from mr. D.K. Burleson

From: DA Morgan <damorgan_at_psoug.org>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:06:34 -0700
Message-ID: <1190930784.27891@bubbleator.drizzle.com>


Gints Plivna wrote:
> On 27 Sept., 16:26, Helma <helma.vi..._at_hotmail.com> wrote:

>> On Sep 27, 3:12 pm, Gints Plivna <gints.pli..._at_gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On 27 Sept., 11:47, Helma <helma.vi..._at_hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello fellow DBA's,
>>>> I've read a article from Burleson where he's an enthusiast about solid
>>>> state disks:
>>>> " It's important for all Oracle professionals to learn about solid-
>>>> state disk to understand how I/O bottlenecks will soon become a thing
>>>> of the past. "
>>>> and
>>>> "The ancient platter-based disks from the 1960's will soon join paper
>>>> tape and punched cards in the annals of IT history. "
>>>> " In my reproducible benchmarks of SSD vs. platter disks, the response
>>>> time benefits of using SSD with Oracle are amazing with blistering
>>>> speeds that result in up to a 300x speed improvement. "
>>>> ( full read athttp://www.dba-oracle.com/t_flash_disk_drives_ssd_ram_san.htm
>>>> )
>>>> He doesn't mention any drawback to this SSD. Does anyone here has
>>>> experience with this SSD , and is it as big as mr Burleson says?
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Helma
>>> Seehttp://www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/09-2005/threads.html#01024
>>> check thread Solid State Disks for Databases
>>> And especially look at answer by Cary Millsap.
>>> Gints Plivnahttp://www.gplivna.eu
>> Sveiks Gints!
>>
>> Thanks for your reply. It seems that most of the remarks are about
>> price ( and the postings are 2 years old) and of course the Amdahl's
>> law - but can we sweep this one under the ceteris paribus carpet?
>> It seems a price/performance issue to me - a ratio that varies over
>> time. What's the latest on this? Or am i missing something else?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Helma- Pasl pt cit to tekstu -
>>
>> - R d t cit to tekstu -

>
> Sveiki! :)
>
> Sometimes postings won't get old (ok better out of date) quite a long
> time. Also this one - with SSD you can probably resolve some I/O
> problems but nothing more.
> I've never used SSD so cannot say anything about them but I've seen
> quite many apps where throwing hardware in never would get any
> significant advantage because of serialization points, crazy sqls,
> crazy requirements and so on.
> Yea I assume that there are cases when SSDs could help, but I think it
> is worth to consider them only for special purposes and after you have
> architected/optimized your app so that it scales well. Without scaling
> I don't think that any SSDs will help.
>
> Gints Plivna
> http://www.gplivna.eu

Good point. And one might note that with the 11g RESULT CACHE one can likely achieve the same result today in 11gR1 at little or no added expense.

-- 
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan_at_x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org
Received on Thu Sep 27 2007 - 17:06:34 CDT

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