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Re: Complicated query: searching for results within results.

From: Michel Cadot <micadot{at}altern{dot}org>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 07:05:56 +0100
Message-ID: <456145c3$0$17891$>

"Charles Hooper" <> a écrit dans le message de news:
| DA Morgan wrote:
| >
| > Please, everyone, remember that some of these queries are from
| > students. Provide hints ... not solutions.
| >
| > I'm not saying phreaker is a student ... but please think carefully
| > about what is being asked before answering.
| >
| > Thanks.
| > --
| > Daniel A. Morgan
| > University of Washington
| >
| > (replace x with u to respond)
| > Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
| >
| Your post appears to be in response to the long winded solution that I
| provided. As a _former_ computer instructor, I beg to differ with the
| notion that only hints should be provided when potentially complex
| questions are asked. Hints work well in a classroom environment where
| there is both a verbal and non-verbal immediate exchange between
| instructor and student. However, hints in a static, written format may
| not serve as motivation to encourage thought processes - those hints
| may be read as the master playing games with the novice or even as a
| way of insulting the novice's intelligence, when that is far from the
| intended result.
| I agree, just providing a solution to a specific problem has limited
| benefits to the recipient if the solution. Providing insight into the
| thought processes that lead to each step of the solution is far more
| helpful - make connections between what is familar to those learning
| something new, with something that is a bit different.
| Charles Hooper
| PC Support Specialist
| K&M Machine-Fabricating, Inc.

No Charles, Daniel post is not for you. He did remind me to take care about lazy students many times during the past years... and from to time to time I slacken my attention and post a solution. (I don't either think his post was just for me, it is just a general warining.)

I'm not agree with you Charles, hints are very useful and students can find the solution with those we post here if they want to make an effort, at least the effort to ask if they don't understand what we post. Obviously, they should talk with their teachers before posting here, if they want a more interactive discussion. Hints are not a way to play master but a way to help student to learn.

Providing insights into the solution is only useful if poster want to understand and not just a solution. How to mae the distinction between the two types of posters? Well, by posting hints and see which ones try and ask for more and which ones don't answer. (imho)

Michel Cadot Received on Mon Nov 20 2006 - 00:05:56 CST

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