Re: Question about entry level Oracle DBA

"Sandeep Bajwa" <sbajwa_at_attbi.com> wrote in message news:3DACD93A.FB7DB1F3_at_attbi.com...
> Not only that. Lots of these jobs are Fakes where Consulting companies
> are just filling in the requirements of Law to advertise in the local
> market before giving away the job to h1 guy for $5/hr while charging
> $50/hr to the client. I know this because I have been in job market
> from last 1 year after I was laid off and I still know at least 10+ h1
> dbas who are working. It is only us US citizens who are out of job.
> So. Please contact your Senator, representative and STOP H1 visas now
> and send back H1 guys working HERE.

Isn't it just possible that they're better at their jobs then you are?

>
> Also Oracle, Microsoft, IBM and other Tech companies boasted at the
> height of Internet that Billion information tech jobs by 2005 are
> required. WHAT HAPPENED?
>
>
>
> John Roberts wrote:
> >
> > "los" <los123_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:XQnq9.30570$OB5.2511260_at_newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> > > If every job listing is asking for 3 to 5 years of experience in
Oracle,
> > > how are entry levels supposed to break into the business? Is it
impossible
> > > to get an entry level Oracle position right now?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Your observation is correct that employers hardly ever advertise for
entry
> > level DBA's, except during periods of extreme shortage, such as
1995-2000.
> >
> > Today, your only opportunity is to be on-site in some other role (e.g.
> > developer, sysadmin, etc.) when the in-house DBA decides he is
overworked
> > and needs some help. When this happens, you make sure that the DBA and
> > management know of your enthusiasm. You can help things along by
getting
> > your OCA or OCP certification. Also, be sure to make everyone aware of
your
> > willingness to work at all hours of the day. Often, the need for DBA
> > assistance is temporary, just to see the company thru a release
> > implementation etc. The company will be reluctant to hire someone to
fill a
> > temporary need. They could bring in a consultant for a time, but this
> > will cost them $75+ per hour, money better spent developing you as a
backup
> > DBA. Another point - your chances are greater at a small shop with just
one
> > DBA on staff. In such a situation, management will recognize the risk
of
> > relying on just the one DBA. After all, he could quit, get sick, go on
> > vacation, have a life outside work, etc.
> >
> > The other possibility is a non-profit organization. You can volunteer
your
> > services thru an internship and gain experience and a reference.
Another
> > possibility is on the IT staff of a political campaign team. You
volunteer
> > to maintain the database supporting campaign donations, building
experience
> > and valuable business contacts. Then, once the election is done you
> > capitalize on your new connections to get the paid job you desire - its
the
> > American way!
> >
> > HTH. Good Luck.
> >
> > John
Received on Wed Oct 16 2002 - 19:01:40 CDT