Re: Has anyone used the QuestSqlPlus Toad tool from Toadsoft?

On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 03:33:37 GMT, "jim" <jmmcda_at_mindspring.com> wrote:

>I actually believe it works the other way around. Those who refuse to
>embrace the guis will be those left in the dust of the careers of those who
>have learned how to master the gui tools. We will never be done with TOAD,
>yet as we implement more and more developer and DBA requested features that
>reduce mundane chores into single clicks, we force more and more Sql*Plus
>dependent dinosaurs into the tar pits.

This is of course the usual stupid argument. I have found that those people who start out using GUIs will actually NEVER LEARN SQL!
They are stuck with all the defaults TOAD and other tools force them to use. Are those defaults always 'smart' NO. Do those GUI-types know how to change the defaults? NO!
What are those GUI types where they end up in a situation they don't have a GUI (believe me those situations DO exist, at least as there is no X implementation of TOAD and other GUIs and many Unix servers don't even have X running, or in situation where the server is behind a firewall and needs to be managed using VNC or Timbukto Pro, or God forbid, Microsoft Terminal Services). They are COMPLETELY HELPLESS because they DON'T KNOW SQL!!
More questions arise: does TOAD have reporting capabilities as sqlplus HAS? NO. Does it support input and output redirecting. NO!

Those who embrace GUIs will appear to be mentally retarted and helpless, because TOAD will ALWAYS be a few releases behind Sql*plus!

In the end the dinosaurs will make the CLUELESS gui DOMBOS obsolete, because the dinosaurs have learned to THINK, and the gui dombos have only learned to CLICK.
Now which one is better?

Regards

Sybrand Bakker, Senior Oracle DBA

To reply remove -verwijderdit from my e-mail address Received on Thu Aug 29 2002 - 02:03:55 CDT