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Re: Fifty years' experience in C programming; 20 in VB...

From: michael ngong <mngong_at_yahoo.com>
Date: 3 May 2002 13:39:49 -0700
Message-ID: <ecf365d5.0205031239.62802730@posting.google.com>


"aztek" <rachel7GET9RID_at_dodo.OFcom.THISau> wrote in message news:<3cd253d9_at_news.comindico.com.au>...
> Hi there,
>
> I completely agree with you on job adverts asking for ridiculous amounts of
> 'expertise'! I've been studying various programming languages and of course
> the other essential theory ingredients for 3 years, got diploma, doing
> degree and can't even get an interview - and yes, my marks are excellent.
> Here in Australia, not only do employers / head hunters list what seems like
> an impossible number of skills from both networking and programming areas,
> but in addition, a junior seems to be considered someone with 2-3 years
> experience!!! IMPOSSIBLE!!!
>
> Well, that's all I had to say. Good luck to the original poster and to
> everyone in my situation!
>
> Rachel
>
> "Kyralessa" <ryan_lundy_at_spamless_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:s8jA8.240$7r7.120058891_at_newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
> > "Daniel Morgan" <dmorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message
> > news:3CD18D9D.25533570_at_exesolutions.com...
> > > Developer wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm looking for a contract job in one of areas of my experience:
> > > > [snip]
> > > > Mail: art_of_proramming_at_seznam.cz
> > > >
> > > > Detailed CV upon request.
> > > > Working languages: English, German, Czech.
> >
> >
> > Based on the e-mail address noted above, I'd say at least one of those
> > languages needs a bit of work!
> >
> >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > No one is competent in as many things as you have listed. I'm not
> saying that
> > > you don't know them to some extent. But in the current marketplace
> people look
> > > for experts, not generalists.
> > >
> > > If you want to be successful I would urge you to decide what it is you
> want to
> > > do and apply for each position with a resume that reflects your
> experience in
> > > that area and that area alone. When I see a resume that looks like a
> to-do list
> > > I just toss it aside and so do most recruiters.
> > >
> > > Daniel Morgan
> >
> >
> > So why, Daniel, do so many companies post such enormous laundry lists of
> > skills on their websites for any one position? The impression I get
> > from most job postings I've looked at is that companies ARE looking for
> > someone who's mastered more than is humanly possible: Five to seven
> > years experience in at least fifteen of some twenty different acronyms
> > listed. Maybe if companies didn't advertise their jobs this way and
> > were more honest about what essential _core_ skills were required for
> > each job, job-seekers wouldn't feel the need to make resumes like this.
> >

It is interesting who sets these expectations "some guy who thinks every other person knows what his client may want".There is a saying that since "Birds have learnt to fly without perching I would shoot without missing"
If head hunters need you to say you have heard about polymorphism say so.
It ends up being that the interviews come down to how well you can act  unfortunately.The more interviews you get the better you get used to what is really expected from you . As long as you have a solid base you only get better and it will be just a matter of time. Received on Fri May 03 2002 - 15:39:49 CDT

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