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Re: Look for second hand licences for Toad 7.2.0.0 and PowerAMC 8.0.1.2.7.5

From: Daniel A. Morgan <damorgan_at_exesolutions.com>
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 13:07:50 +0000
Message-ID: <3C651F26.CED1382A@exesolutions.com>


Perhaps you haven't heard of car leasing. Try reselling a car you leased without buying it. I don't think you will be amused by the result. Or try it with a car rented from Hertz or Avis.

Daniel Morgan

Keith Boulton wrote:

> C = customer
> S = salesman
>
> S can I help you?
>
> C I'd like to buy a car.
>
> S I'm sorry - you're not allowed to do that
>
> C What?
>
> S No. You can however have an indefinite license to use a car. It's much
> the same thing.
>
> C I'm going to another car dealer.
>
> S I think you'll find we all do this now.
>
> C OK. Well how much is that car over there.
>
> S That car is £30,000 plus an additional £10,000 pounds for each person
> who rides in it.
>
> S Unless, or course, you do more than 10,000 miles per year, in which
> case it will be £60000.
>
> S Or park in more than one location when there is an additional
> multi-parking fee of £10000.
>
> S Per location.
>
> C You're taking the p.
>
> S I think you'll find all car dealers do this.
>
> C I don't like that colour, can I have it in blue?
>
> S Certainly, though all our cars obviously have our company name in 3
> foot high letters.
>
> C Surely, I could just have that removed?
>
> S In that case, we would take the car off you without refund.
>
> C This is getting silly.
>
> S I think you'll find all car dealers work this way.
>
> C What's the fuel consumption?
>
> S In our tests it managed 100 mpg. Your mileage may vary.
>
> C That's remarkably efficient. What do people get out of it in normal
> use?
>
> S They can't say.
>
> C Eh?
>
> S Our license explicitly forbids discussion of performance or fuel
> consumption figures. I think you'll find all car-dealers have similar terms.
>
> C Well I suppose it will still be cheap to run. What are repair costs
> like?
>
> S You have to pay 20% of the purchase price for servicing and repair and
> then will make good any defect we feel like fixing.
>
> C So, it's very expensive and you can choose not to repair it?
>
> S That's right.
>
> C I don't think I'll bother
>
> S I should remind you that our license prevents you having the car
> serviced or repaired anywhere else, so if it breaks down you're stuffed.
>
> C That's ludicrous!
>
> S It's perfectly normally in the car industry. I should also point out
> that opening the bonnet is against the terms of the agreement and will
> result in the confiscation of the vehicle.
>
> C What's the resale value when I come to sell?
>
> S. I'm sorry, but you can never sell it - we continue to own it. We might
> or might not give you a trade-in value when you buy a new car.
>
> C And people put up with this?
>
> S They have no choice - all car dealers work this way.
>
> C Well I suppose I'll have to accept it myself.
>
> ...
>
> C I need to fill up with petrol and your price is outrageous. Is there
> another petrol station nearby?
>
> S Well you can, of courses, use petrol from another vendor, but that will
> invalidate your service agreement.
>
> C But I've just paid £20,000 pounds for that.
>
> S It would be wise and cost-effective therefore to buy our petrol.
>
> ...
>
> C I need a new lightbulb for my car.
>
> S What year was it bought.
>
> C 1999
>
> S I'm sorry, we don't make parts for that vehicle any more.
>
> C What?
>
> S We can't be expected to continue supporting every model we've ever made
> and anyway, the new model is much better. You'll have to live with only
> driving during the day or buy a new model. If only you had the 2000 year
> model, I could have offered you a special upgrade price, but you'll have to
> pay full price again....
>
> Keith Boulton <kboulton_at_ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:3f798.22357$H37.2601379_at_news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> >
> > Daniel A. Morgan <damorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message
> > news:3C6468C7.B4976CEE_at_exesolutions.com...
> > > Interesting. But a license is generally controlled by the license
> > provisions.
> > > And the reason software is licensed and not sold is to prevent the very
> > thing
> > > that we are discussing here.
> >
> > and the question is can an organisation limit a purchasers rights by
> > claiming that the thing being sold is in some way different from every
> other
> > thing.
> >
> >
Received on Sat Feb 09 2002 - 07:07:50 CST

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