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Re: Oracle - Free Training

From: Arthur <mechhunter_at_rocketmail.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 09:00:38 GMT
Message-ID: <39dc4113.63062720@news.iinet.net.au>

Hi Varghese,

I myself is opting for the developer path for the reason that I LOVE programming - database admin to me is like - I don't know, I like it also but I guess developing and all wins out.

I am going thru some books in Amazon and I have to tell you that in my opnion, you can spend (I don't know how much the currency conversion is) - but you can get some decent to good books on Admin with accomping CD that will have some samples exams questions that will really help you.

I myself thinks that taking 'class' and all is over-rated. The cost of those class is most probably 10 times the cost of getting a decent book that you will have and all. For examples : to join up with an Oracle training class cost you in the region of around $7,000 whereas getting a book and all cost you around $200. I have just completed and past my PL/SQL from self study and in the past, I have been to Novell class that costed me my leg - if given the choice, I will op to get a book and work from the ground up. if yo are hard working and all, there is NOTHING you can't learn from reading, doing it yourself and asking people that you can learn from class room. Class environment to me is tooo static, everything is pre-trial and then you walk in and do your work, whereas in real, you have to do this, something happen and you fix it and learn from it.

It's a hassel trying to configure everything you need and all if you are starting from scratch but I tell you what, nothing beating learning from your own trial and error experience and the feeling you get when it works, WOO HOOO!

If you really have the cash and all to attaind classes and all, I will say get the books and don't worry about class too much, to me, they are over rated but that's MY opnion - I am positive other will think different.

All the best for your future,
Arthur

On Thu, 05 Oct 2000 05:29:46 -0000, varghese <varghese_at_bhartient.com> wrote:

>
>Thank you very much, dear Arthur. That's news to me that I can appear OCP
>exam one off per month. I am sure I am not going to fail.
>
>Another thing I noted that I can download Oracle 8i Personal edition freely
>from Oracle. Regarding domentation etc., let me start Oracle and I would be
>able
>to attend class room training later.
>
>I need to to do something to come out of the financial worries. I opted
>for Oracle DBA. This was a dream. I was thinking about a change for the
>last four year and I would like to work in USA and computer is the best
>thing which can reach me to USA.
>
>Thank you once again for all your help. I am going to download Oracle 8i
>Personal
>edition and start learning. Think big and you will difinitely earn big.
>
>-Varghese
>
>Arthur wrote:
>>
>>
>> You can probably do it in 5 -6 months depending on your database
>> background and all - you need to sit for 5 exams and killing one off
>> per month (granted that you do NOT fail) it not a hard task but
>> free - well, that's hard. You can download 8i Personal edition from
>> oracle.com but as for the documents and all to learn - I doubt you can
>> find them for free plastered all over the net and even if you do find
>> them I will be weary of usingthem because:
>> Those training guide are copyright and if they aren't close down by
>> Oracle yet for breaching that, I will say they could be inaccurate.
>> VampireD is right, you can't just learn theory of it, you HAVE to get
>> down and get dirty with DBA.
>> I myself is now looking at some books I can get to learn Oracle (IDG
>> etc) cause I found out last nite that the set I have got are
>> incomplete. When/if I find a good set for a good price, I will be
>> more than willing to EMail you about the price and all if you like.
>>
>> Arthur
>>
>> On Wed, 04 Oct 2000 18:06:21 GMT, VampireD <vampired_at_my-deja.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >If you plan on becoming an Oracle DBA in 6 months, and you expect to be
>> >free, you will find you will have a hard time getting anywhere.
>> >
>> >Oracle is a complex system, it isn't something that you can just learn
>> >reading on the net. Specially if you don't have real world experience
>> >and databases you can work on and experiment.
>> >
>> >To be honest, if your attitude is to learn this using free websites and
>> >tutorials online, I doubt you will find yourself in a dba position.
>> >That approach is ok for becoming familar with oracle, especially as a
>> >programmer, but to become a dba, it is fairly different, specially with
>> >all that is involved in it. Not to mention wanting to do this in 6
>> >months. Paying $12,000 and going to the 5 Oracle courses is about a 6
>> >month process.
>> >
>> >In article <stmj7sq8ksre92_at_corp.supernews.com>,
>> > varghese <varghese_at_bhartient.com> wrote:
>> >> I am planning to learn Oracle and would like to become a DBA within a
 6
>> >> months time. I would like to visit some free sites and download free
 or
>> >> trial versions of hands-on training programs. Anyone can help me out
 to see
>> >> these free sites? - Varghese
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >
>> >--
>> >Christopher R. Spence
>> >OCP, MCP, MCSE, A+, RAPTOR, CNA
>> >
>> >
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>> >Before you buy.
>>
>
>
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Received on Thu Oct 05 2000 - 04:00:38 CDT

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