Re: Is Oracle deliberately difficult?

In article <39ab7ae5_at_news.iprimus.com.au>,   "Howard J. Rogers" <howardjr_at_iprimus.com> wrote:
>
> Accepted, and respected. I'm just wondering if you can give a
 specific
> example.
>
> When I first encountered Oracle, I thought it was beautifully
 engineered,
> and I don't really see what the difficulties are. I do Oracle
 training
> courses, so I see the the things students have trouble with, but it's
 easy
> to buy out of that with thoughts such as 'that's students for
 you', 'well
> what do you expect if they insist on keeping their mobile phones
 switched on
> for the course's duration', or 'what do you expect -it is 5 over-
 packed days
> after all'.
>
> The Oracle databases I have at home are managed using tried and tested
> server manager, and I've never got on with the 'click OK and trust to
 luck'
> kind of approach. Seems too much to be riding on to go that route.
>
> Still, I'd like to hear of specific examples you have in mind.

I am still very much a neophyte and most examples I would point out are simply because it is a different paradigm from what I am used to. That alone is what causes a lot of problems for people starting out. Once I get my hands around the architecture and the basic setup, design, philosophy, and some rudimentary PL/SQL I'll probably be ok. However this is a far cry from when I started with SQL Server. However that's the Microsoft way - Information for the Idiots.

I have a ways to go and will be covering more of the basics over the next few months as I get it set up on my Linux box at home. We have it running on some NT boxes at the office that I sometimes have to admin - but I'm forced into doing because I work with some dolts (i.e. oracle programmers who don't understand how to DBA what they are working on) and I've never been trained in it. So when I sit down and have to go to server manager and piddle around in there I'm like a kid with a jr. chemistry set hoping he doesn't blow something up.

You say you feel more comfortable with the CLI then P&C. Why? The only benefit I can see is that you're less likely to hit the wrong button or try something not knowing what you're doing and mess something up. On the otherhand P&C you're more likely to find things when your not intimately familiar with the system and get it working.

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Before you buy. Received on Tue Aug 29 2000 - 09:49:51 CDT