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Re: Microsoft destroys TPC-C records!

From: <jahorsch_at_my-deja.com>
Date: 2000/03/22
Message-ID: <8bb9fr$lbe$1@nnrp1.deja.com>#1/1

In article <38D913CF.F6DB1605_at_msgto.com>, Tim Uckun <Malcontent_at_msgto.com> wrote:
> > people will start realizing that SQL Server/Windows 2000 is a
 solution
> > for the Enterprise. The solution will probably be much cheaper than
> > say a Oracle/SUN solution. Wait till the end of this year and look
 at
> > where 2000 datacenter is at and where SQL 2000 can scale and then we
>
> SQL server is in an odd position right now. Enterprise users don't
 trust
> it and certainly don't trust NT to provide them with high uptimes. For
> serious applications they seem to prefer mainframes or Solaris
 clusters.
> This shuts SQL server out of the picture. Also SQL server cost
> calculations have include a per user license for NT as well as SQL
> server so it does not end up cheaper then Oracle or DB/2. You can run
> these on Solaris or Linux neither one of which has a per user fee
> associated with it.
>
> On the bottom end SQL server is being pressured by databases like
> sqlanywhere, interbase adn postgres which are free or cheap. Right now
> by not making Access SQL92 compliant they seem to provide a hurdle to
> upsizing to other databases but the open source model seems to be
> adapting well as there are numerous tools for upsizing access to
> postgreslq.
>
> In summary. SQL server is being pressured on the high end by Oracle
 and
> IBM, and on the low end by free databases that are very capable of
> serving your average small business. Their only tools to fight back
 are
> a monopoly in desktop databases (access) which makes it hard to upsize
> to other databases and a monopoly in operating systems which they use
 to
> subsidize the SQL server pricing structure. It remains to be seen if
> they can increase their market share (around 10% last I checked) using
> these techniques while still ignoring corba, java, unix, other
> technologies that they did not invent. Of course if they get broken up
> or the pyramid scheme they have going by buying and selling their own
> stock collapses I would expect to SQL server to be priced much higher
> then it is now.
>

Look at TPC-C and then tell me how Oracle and Sun are in the same ballpark for peformance/cost. I already stated above the fact that most enterprises will not embrace NT/SQL Server as an enterprise solution. I can tell you at a fortune 100 company that I am currently at SQL Server is much more available than Informix, Oracle, and UDB. Havent you heard of MSDE? MSDE and Jet are free and can scale you up to 2GB which is good enough for most small businesses. Personally I do not see a squeeze from top and bottom I see a push. Lets not forget SQL Server will run on CE as well. SQL Server should be suitable for 95% of all new applications that are not forced to a particular platform. Some of those 5% Oracle wouldnt be able to do either. As I keep saying just wait till the end of this year and we will see where it all stands.

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