Re: Query ASH for Undo Blocks

Hi Jonathan,

a.)
COLUMN_NAME      NUM_DISTINCT   NUM_NULLS NUM_BUCKETS STATUS           6                      0             1 ID2              2              24584135              1

STATUS     COUNT

5       20910785
9        1684772
3          37284
6          31258
2           5525
4             51

select count(*) from tab1 where Date_col1> LOCALTIMESTAMP(6); COUNT(*)
       30899

select count(*) from tab1 where Date_col1 <= LOCALTIMESTAMP(6);

COUNT(*)
       23313

Date_col1  is not null because

select count(*) from tab1 where Date_col1 <=GREATEST(NULL,LOCALTIMESTAMP(6));

COUNT(*)
           0

b.) Don't know how I should do this. v$segstat / v$segment_statistics have no relation to specific session.
      Whenever v$segstat / v$segment_statistics changes I could not track this back the source.
     Since I can not look at my statement in isolation (e.g. on a test db) I would have all db activity in my stats.      Even if I could, I would need concurrent activity to get shed some light on undo applied.
     I guess what I could do is using Tanels snapper though. The undo chain counter might do the trick.

    In my understanding since ID2 is Null -> ID2 = ID2 which effectively means :"ID2 is not null".
    Thus, this is a filter due 3 valued logic because of the comparison operator. I am pretty sure that is not what the developer indented.     I guess this is this silly coding trick with conditional conditions.

c.) Sure, I know. The point is that I am lacking the privileges. (Not  that I did not ask..)
      Timestamp by itself is not a good enough reason not to be captured. It is sampled in anydata and can be converted back to timestamp.

d.)
The index is for sure not very good with respect to the query.

ID            CNT        % count
           20962881       92,39
    524     1229211       5,42
    800       91407        0,4
    553       71571       0,32
    815       59699       0,26
    507       48167       0,21
    521       34961       0,15
    805       26855       0,12
    893       25108       0,11
    818       24173       0,11
    895       18537       0,08
    854       15793       0,07
    546       14880       0,07
    523       13995       0,06

Thanks

Am 18.06.2022 um 10:52 schrieb Jonathan Lewis:
> A couple more thoughts:
>
> a) what does the status column look like - number of distinct values,
> pattern of 2's and 3's, number of nulls.
>
> b) You could check v$segstat / v$segment_statistics over an interval
> and check the number of executions/buffer gets for the statement then
> see if the changed in buffer gets over the interval is mostly due to
> the table blocks or index blocks. Since you update only one row then
> if the buffer gets are mostly index that suggests the "id2" predicate
> is eliminating the data (because it's null), if the buffer gets are
> mostly table it's  probably about the status (and maybe that should be
> in the index).
>
> c) If you enable sql_trace at level 4 for that SQL_ID for a few
> executions the trace file will report the peeked value for the
> timestamp variable each time. See
> https://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2019/05/03/occurence/ for getting
> at the SQL_ID from outside any session that's running it.
>
> d) I do wonder if the very small number of distinct values for id
> means every id has a huge number of entries in the index which HAVE to
> be examined before being eliminated by the id2 predicate (what does
> the result of "select id, count(*)" look like ?
>
> Regards
> Jonathan Lewis
>
>
>
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 at 15:47, Jonathan Lewis <jlewisoracle_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Lothar,
>
> What's num_rows for the table and for the index?
>
> Surely id2 is also a column in the index since it appears as a
> filter on the index range scan
>
> What's the actual query - has Oracle taken the predicate like the
> one that appears as the filter predicate to the "table access"
> operation and constructed the date_col1 predicate that appears as
> an access predicate on the "index range scan" operation.
>
> Which version of Oracle ? It's possible that  the :B1 is not
> captured because it's a timestamp and there's a bit of code
> missing.  I have a note dated some time in 2006 which shows that
> bind variables are not reported in trace files if they are
> nvarchar2() it's possible that the same happens with timestamps
> and other newer data types.
>
> Regards
> JOnathan Lewis
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 at 15:04, Lothar Flatz <l.flatz_at_bluewin.ch> wrote:
>
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> On the very database I am limited in rights, therefore I can
> not provide all the Information you asked for.
> In particular there is no SQL Monitor, one execution runs to
> fast and I can not switch it on.
> The statement is rather simple (I changed all Names):
>
>  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> | Id  | Operation                    | Name       | Rows  |
> Bytes | Cost (%CPU)| Time     |
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> |   0 | SELECT STATEMENT             | |       |       |     2
> (100)|          |
> |   1 |  FOR UPDATE                  | |       |      
> |            |          |
> |*  2 |   TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID| Tab1 |     1 |    42
> |     2   (0)| 00:00:01 |
> |*  3 |    INDEX RANGE SCAN          | Index1 |     1 |      
> |     2   (0)| 00:00:01 |
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Predicate Information (identified by operation id):
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>    2 - filter("Date_col1"<=CASE "status" WHEN 2 THEN :B1 WHEN
> 3 THEN
>               LOCALTIMESTAMP(6) END )
>    3 - access("ID"=:B3 AND
> "Date_col1"<=GREATEST(:B1,LOCALTIMESTAMP(6))
>               )
>        filter("ID2"=COALESCE(:B2,"ID2"))
>
> Here the Stats of a batch run
>
> Stat Name                                Statement   Per
> Execution % Snap
> ---------------------------------------- ----------
> -------------- -------
> Elapsed Time (ms) 3.9098E+08           45.7     3.2
> CPU Time (ms) 3.8841E+08           45.4     4.5
> Executions 8,546,245            1.0     0.0
> Buffer Gets 3.2236E+10        3,772.0     6.9
> Disk Reads 364,449            0.0     0.0
> Parse Calls 187,232            0.0     0.0
> Rows 6,441,767            0.8     N/A
> User I/O Wait Time (ms) 328,217            0.0     0.0
> Cluster Wait Time (ms) 0            0.0     0.0
> Application Wait Time (ms) 117            0.0     0.0
> Concurrency Wait Time (ms) 1,693,881            0.2     0.1
> Invalidations 0            N/A     N/A
> Version Count 1,536            N/A     N/A
> Sharable Mem(KB) 64,108            N/A     N/A
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> ASH says time is spent:
>
> SQL_PLAN_OPERATION SQL_PLAN_OPTIONS        SQL_PLAN_LINE_ID
> SECONDS    % seconds
> CPU                            RANGE
> SCAN                            3 415160           97
> CPU                            BY INDEX
> ROWID                        2       6100 1
> CPU 1       3170            1
> buffer busy waits 1       1310            0
> CPU 480            0
> read by other session          BY INDEX
> ROWID                        2        220 0
> db file sequential read        BY INDEX
> ROWID                        2        100 0
> latch: cache buffers chains    BY INDEX
> ROWID                        2         90 0
> buffer busy waits              BY INDEX
> ROWID                        2         70 0
> db file scattered read 1         40            0
> latch: cache buffers chains    RANGE
> SCAN                            3 30            0
> latch: cache buffers chains 1         30            0
>
> This is the Index Definition:
>
> INDEX_NAME COMPRESSION            BLEVEL   LEAF_BLOCKS
> DISTINCT_KEYS   AVG_LEAF_BLOCKS_PER_KEY AVG_DATA_BLOCKS_PER_KEY
> Index1      DISABLED               3 112885             6290
> 17                        102
>
> col stats
> COLUMN_NAME NUM_DISTINCT  NUM_NULLS NUM_BUCKETS
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------ ---------- -----------
> ID 56   37349080           1
> Date_col1 2628   39004885           1
>
> Bind Variable B2 is always Null btw. B1 is never captured. (Do
> you know why? I wonder if the reason might be that it is used
> in an expression.)
>
> These Numbers are from a Test DB. Here I got about 200 Buffers
> per execution. Question: where does the rest come from?
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> | Id  | Operation                    | Name       | Starts |
> E-Rows | A-Rows |   A-Time   | Buffers | Reads  |
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> |   0 | SELECT STATEMENT             | |     49M|        |    
> 42M|15:17:46.13 |      17G| 12889 |
> |   1 |  FOR UPDATE                  | |     49M|        |    
> 42M|15:17:46.13 |      17G| 12889 |
> |*  2 |   TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID| Tab1 |     49M|      2
> |     57M|13:45:46.36 |      16G| 12874 |
> |*  3 |    INDEX RANGE SCAN          | Index1 |     49M|    
> 22 |     12G|07:27:46.63 | 10G|   1536 |
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Thanks
>
> Lothar
>
>
> Am 13.06.2022 um 20:13 schrieb Jonathan Lewis:
>>
>> What's the scale of the problem?  i.e. how long does the
>> query run, how complex is the query/plans, how much of the
>> time relates to the index range scan, how many buffer gets
>> does that index range scan step take, how many do you think
>> it should take.  How frequently doe the query run, how
>> repeatable is the experiment?
>>
>> How are you working out that that index range scan is doing
>> more buffer gets than you expect - have you enabled SQL
>> Monitor for the SQL_Id?
>>
>> Regards
>> Jonathan Lewis
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 at 11:35, Lothar Flatz
>> <l.flatz_at_bluewin.ch> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> there is a plan with an Index Range scan that generates
>> way more
>> buffer_gets than you would expect.
>> Would it be correct to query active session history using
>> CURRENT_FILE#
>> and CURRENT_BLOCK# to check against DBA_EXTENTS
>> to find out if some buffer gets are coming from undo?
>> The query does work, but i am not sure if the result is
>> showing the
>> indented answer.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Lothar
>>
>>
>>
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