Re: Upgrading with no patches in the "base"?

From: Sayan Malakshinov <xt.and.r_at_gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 18:25:38 +0300
Message-ID: <CAOVevU5OWLFqKgNFgwsFZJwJHS=Q3JHCnSwqd-R=mTji0NDSLg_at_mail.gmail.com>



> Last but not least, why not 19c?

BTW, interesting idea for a big poll:
Where did you get more bugs: 11.2, 12.2 or 19.3+

Best regards,
Sayan Malakshinov
Oracle performance tuning expert
Oracle Database Developer Choice Award winner Oracle ACE Associate
http://orasql.org

пт, 8 янв. 2021 г., 18:19 Noveljic Nenad <nenad.noveljic_at_vontobel.com>:

> Hi Michael,
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> That sounds like black magic.
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> If “for a while” implies two different maintenance windows, you end up
> with two test cycles and two disruptions instead of just one. If you get
> the opportunity to combat these voodoo practitioners in front of the
> management, the most persuasive argument would be that the database will be
> running without security and other critical patches for a while. Who’s
> going to take that risk?
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> Last but not least, why not 19c?
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> Best regards,
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> Nenad
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> *From:* oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org <oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org> *On
> Behalf Of *Michael Kline
> *Sent:* Freitag, 8. Januar 2021 15:29
> *To:* 'ORACLE-L' <oracle-l_at_freelists.org>
> *Subject:* Upgrading with no patches in the "base"?
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> Hearing that an application is going to be upgraded from 12.1 to 12.2.
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> Vendor is saying they will create a “blank, no patched” 12.2 $ORACLE_HOME,
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> They will test this for a while, and if everything is fine, THEN they will
> apply the patch.
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> I’ve never heard of such a thing and have been working on Oracle databases
> since 1983, version 4.0.
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> Is there logic in this? We try to keep all databases at N-1 on patching.
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> *Michael Kline*
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