RE: Oracle 12.1.0.2 RIP

That was the problem with Oracle flipping to the year change numbers, which means from a business persons perspective it is a major upgrade yearly, when of course it is not.

It does take some explaining, but normally you can get the business people/your management past it by having rock solid procedures and providing the fastest possible service when fixing things.

I have a lot of clients that no matter how much testing is done in DEV/TEST there is one production database that we won’t hit problems until we upgrade it.

Doesn’t matter the length of time that the patch is in DEV/TEST it will never see the errors that occur in that one prod database.  

To get the business comfortable at all you simply have to stress process and all hands on deck when the errors occur in prod. Sadly although also positively for those singular troublesome prod databases the problems occur not just on major version jumps( by the number) but on most quarterly patch sets, so major version name change really is no different than quarterly patch set.      

From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org <oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org> On Behalf Of Martin Klier - Performing Databases GmbH Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:31 AM To: jkstill_at_gmail.com
Cc: gogala mladen <gogala.mladen_at_gmail.com>; Oracle-L Freelists <oracle-l_at_freelists.org> Subject: Re: Oracle 12.1.0.2 RIP  

Could not agree more Jared.

Unfortunately, many customers jump back from the "major version change" the "upgrade" from 12.2 to 19c seems to bring. As we all know it's just numbers, and a 12.2 tech stack, but go ahead and tell them... feel like a prophet talking to camels in the desert sometimes... :)

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Von: "Jared Still" <jkstill_at_gmail.com <mailto:jkstill_at_gmail.com> > An: "gogala mladen" <gogala.mladen_at_gmail.com <mailto:gogala.mladen_at_gmail.com> > CC: "Oracle-L Freelists" <oracle-l_at_freelists.org <mailto:oracle-l_at_freelists.org> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. Oktober 2019 16:15:15 Betreff: Re: Oracle 12.1.0.2 RIP

agreed. 19c is the version of 12.2 that mostly works.  

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 12:11 Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen_at_gmail.com <mailto:gogala.mladen_at_gmail.com> > wrote:

I was unable to download proactive BP 191015 for 12.1.0.2 because I don't have an extended support. With that, Oracle 12cR1 era is officially over. I recommend everyone to immediately upgrade to 19c, the last version in the 12c series of products.

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