Re: Oracle licensing with disk replication

This has the relevant answers you're looking for:

https://www.oracle.com/assets/data-recovery-licensing-070587.pdf

But, that document is not a legal contract. If you are in a large corp, get your legal representatives on this and have them deal with the Oracle sales guys.

Otherwise, licensing specialty firms may help - there's a bunch of them out there you can easily find via google. Their fees are negligible compared to the full costs of paying the licenses and support back to the time where they were first deployed, which I've personally seen quickly escalate into millions.

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 4:26 AM Chris Taylor < christopherdtaylor1994_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> It depends - Oracle sales does this and tells you it has to be licensed.
>
> I worked for a company that had this exact issue and what it boiled down
> to was the following:
>
> "Only servers that have the binaries installed are subject to licensing" -
> Per the lawyers from that work.
>
> So, [not being a license expert or a law person], I would believe that as
> long as the Oracle binaries are NOT presented to a running server, there is
> no licensing implication.
> However, if you have installed the binaries AND they are present on a
> running server, there's a really good chance your in violation of the
> licensing agreement.
>
> http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/olsa-ire-v122304-070683.pdf
>
> If you look at all the different licensing options in the above link such
> as "Processor" or "Named User" etc, they all refer to "where the Oracle
> programs are installed and/or running". The lawyers found in our case that
> we owned the data, while Oracle owns the binaries/software. So we were
> free to replicate our data to an offsite DR machine as much as we wanted
> and then we could present the software up to 10 days a year for DR
> testing. Then remove the software after those tests.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 4:01 PM Hubler, Daniel <daniel.hubler_at_aurora.org>
> wrote:
>
>> We started work on a 2nd data center 2 years ago, and the equipment to
>> make it functional is starting to come together.
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>> One of the things that is happening is using Hitachi storage and
>> replicating everything in the primary data center
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>> to the secondary.
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>> So we end up with a bunch of storage frames at the 2nd location
>> containing exact copies of the disk at our primary location.
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>> The folks who manage our contracts are telling us that Oracle corp. is
>> being a pain,
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>> and demanding compensation for these replicated copies of their software,
>> which basically sit idle.
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>> Personally, I can see how Oracle would want a piece of this, because we
>> do derive benefit from it.
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>> The contract folks are suggesting that ONLY Oracle corp. is behaving this
>> way.
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>> None of our other vendors.
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>> Does this jive with other people’s experience?
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>> Thanks for your input.
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