RE: Oracle Enterprise Linux and Linux Standard Base (LSB)

From: <rajendra.pande_at_ubs.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 08:41:40 -0400
Message-ID: <D4C8B99EB96F2C42B4E19A3B87664F5E05D899_at_NSTMC612PEX.ubsamericas.net>

In the end to me it seems like a cute strategy to kill RH Over time. Unless RH can and it is difficult to see how they can without the testing resources of ORACLE, RH will be more and more dependent on ORACLE to get these "performance" improvements (considering that ORACLE is the big game for Linux and RH).
Then ORACLE in the name of early releases, more testing etc etc, and even maybe some patenting around some very specific technologies(SSD) or tying its code to ORACLE kernel will kill RH. Even in a best case the RH performance will be delayed by 8-12 months pushing it out of the game.

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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of D'Hooge Freek Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:47 AM
To: tim_at_oracle-base.com; Ray Stell
Cc: Jared Still; Oracle-L Freelists
Subject: RE: Oracle Enterprise Linux and Linux Standard Base (LSB)

Tim,  

Question is how hardware (eg fiber channel cards) and third party software such as SymantecNetBackup will be certified against this kernel / linux.
Currently many of them just say next to OEL "see Redhat", but now with the separate kernel ...?

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Freek D'Hooge
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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Tim Hall
Sent: zaterdag 2 oktober 2010 17:17
To: Ray Stell
Cc: Jared Still; Oracle-L Freelists
Subject: Re: Oracle Enterprise Linux and Linux Standard Base (LSB)


Hi.

Judging by what was being said at OOW, I think many of the existing
Oracle systems will move across quite quickly. It's not a difficult
change for an exisitng OEL/RHEL 5.5 system. Stuff on older RHEL versions
will be more problematic.

It was suggested that product certification will take place against the
Oracle Kernel prior to the RHEL kernel, since it is their intention that
we should all be using the Oracle Kernel anyway. Not sure if it will
actually work out that way.

Regarding Solaris, well it becoming a primary development platform
(along with Linux and Windows) just means the versions will come out
quicker for Solaris (allegedly) than they currently do because they
won't have to wait to be ported from the completed Linux version. As you
say, it doesn't necessarily mean support will have a Solaris box
available to test.

Regarding Solaris on Exadata and Exalogic. Not sure what the demand for
this will be. Either way you are getting Intel kit, so I guess it
depends on how deeply in love with Solaris you are. :)

Cheers

Tim...


On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Ray Stell <stellr_at_cns.vt.edu> wrote:


	On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 03:47:50PM +0100, Tim Hall wrote:


	> but Oracle are

	> moving over to it themselves, including in their appliances,

so it's a safe


	> bet that it will end up being more thoroughly tested with

Oracle products


	> than the RHEL kernel in the near future.

	
	WRT the solaris jilt, when I went through that phase, the
support folks did not
	have any systems to test on to verify results.  Release of
software was always
	way behind RHEL, but I was already gone by then.  Coming to a
theatre near you?
	


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