RE: Grid stuff that bugs me - a solution

From: Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR) <>
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:57:13 -0400
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I disagree with you that 10g is "much better than 9i ever was".  

Cost of installation and support on *me* is 100% higher. Usability is at best much much worse.  

They took a perfectly good product for DBA's and transformed it into a monster to try and capture an overall systems monitoring market. This is a perfect example of Oracle overstepping what they do best - which is RDBMS software.  

The features of a web based system are so much worse than a simply JAVA window. Have you tried to simply look at two schemas in different databases at the same time? Can't be done with 10g. And the response time to bring up a screen is horrible.  

Not even close to beiung better than the 9i version.


From: Elliott, Patrick [] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:51 AM
Cc: Nuno Souto; Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR) Subject: RE: Grid stuff that bugs me - a solution

That is why in 10g they took the word "Intelligent" out of the name. 10g is much better than 9i ever was. The clearstate is not a regular necessity.  


From: Charles Schultz [] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:26 AM
Cc: Elliott, Patrick; Nuno Souto; Subject: Re: Grid stuff that bugs me - a solution

I have to ask, where is the "intelligence" in "intelligent agent"? Why do the agents so often get out of synch with reality? Will 11g, or any other future releases, "fix" this problem?

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR) <> wrote:


        Well thanks to all from this list, I solved my problem with Patrick's


        The clearstate solution seemed to solve my problem.         

        Thanks all for your help!         


	-----Original Message-----
	[] On Behalf Of Nuno Souto
	Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 11:30 PM
	Cc: oracle-l
	Subject: Re: Grid stuff that bugs me
	Thanks Patrick, will give that a try.
	Nuno Souto
	in wet Sydney, Australia
	Elliott, Patrick wrote,on my timestamp of 17/06/2008 8:57 AM:

> You probably need to do a clearstate on the agent. Here is
the process.
> emctl stop agent
> cd $EM_HOME/sysman/emd
> rm -f agntstmp.txt lastupld.xml blackouts.xml
> rm -f upload/*
> rm -f state/*
> rm -f collection/*
> emctl clearstate agent
> emctl start agent
> emctl upload agent
> Pat
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
[] On Behalf Of Nuno Souto
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 5:31 PM
> To:
> Cc: oracle-l
> Subject: Re: Grid stuff that bugs me
> Got a similar one as well. Alert on objects in wrong
> Moved them out with sqlplus. Now it continues to alert me, on
something that is not there. Is there a simple way of sending an "ack" to this thing so it wakes up and checks again?
> --
-- --
Charles Schultz 

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