Re: Oracle out the door
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:05:44 -0400
I'm surprised to hear that you're implementing RAC on a two-node linux cluster. You're management seems very upset with licensing costs and is considering low-cost alternatives. I can't imagine that you need to be paying those extra tens of thousands of dollars for RAC; won't the extra licensing and maintenance costs of RAC come out about the same as those three servers your eliminating?
If you really want HA, why not just use Red Hat Cluster Suite? You can still use TAF, failover can still happen automatically in just a few minutes and it's way, way cheaper...
Consolidating many databases onto a single large linux box running SE would seem to be a great cost reduction strategy.
On 4/30/08, John Thompson <jhthomp_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for all the replies on this. Senior mgmt. currently is so upset
> with Oracle that they are not entertaining any of the ideas posted.
> Regardless, our team is moving forward with some of the ideas posted, i.e.
> Standard Edition and more consolidation than we already have. For example,
> we're in the process of moving all of our development instances into a 2
> Linux node RAC environment thus eliminating 3 servers.
> From all the posts, it seems Oracle is upsetting companies even more so
> than in the past. Seems like they're in a catch 22 since if they lower the
> licensing costs their profits will drop and upset Wall St. But if they
> don't, they will continue to lose customers and and profit and still upset
> Wall St.
> On 4/30/08, dba1 mcc <mccdba1_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> > O.K. Upper level management may NOT care what kind of problem on SQL
> > Server.
> > My boss always say: I make decision and you fix problem.
> > *Rich Jesse <rjoralist_at_society.servebeer.com>* wrote:
> > Having added SQL Server 2K/2K5 to my resume in the past year I can offer
> > a
> > SQL Server hit list for the seasoned Oracle DBA:
> > 10) Regular rebuilding of indexes and reclaiming space.
> > 9) Temp "result" tables are the norm for programming.
> > 8) Escalating Blocking Lock City!
> > 7) Cursors are evil here.
> > 6) Troubleshooting is easy: Reboot
> > 5) A hier-WHO-cical query???
> > 4) Indexes mixed in with table pages ("Charlie Foxtrot" in military
> > jargon)
> > 3) Corrupted pages ("blocks" to the Ora DBA).
> > 2) Everything should be in "dbo", right?
> > 1) Welcome to 1990!
> > Upper management probably won't care about any of this until it's too
> > late.
> > At least shoot for EnterpriseDB (paid PostgreSQL) -- they're
> > specifically
> > targeting installed Oracle bases.
> > GL!
> > Rich
> > > The new CIO at my current employer brings a lot of preternatural hate
> > > for Oracle licensing as well. So much so that the upcoming data
> > > warehouse project for our Oracle OLTP instance is slated to be on SQL
> > > Server.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:39 PM, John Thompson wrote:
> > >> Company I work for just announced that we're going to convert all but
> > 2 of
> > >> our 89 Oracle databases to either SQL Server, MYSQL, or PostgreSQL.
> > This
> > >> is due to the high licensing cost. I'm bummed.
> > >
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