RE: Oracle out the door

From: Pratap Singh (c) <>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:52:34 -0700
Message-ID: <>

Keeping Wall Street happy or Customers happy? In fact most of the time Sales team do not focus on any of these two. They are more content on making themselves happy or earning better bonus. Most sales comp plan are focused on getting new customer and with less focus on keeping existing customer happy.
As a new customer you can get huge discount and as existing customer very little, unless you are ready to quit.  

On the other hand I think most customer gain a lot just by mentioning they may quit than by actually quitting Oracle..  


PB Singh
DW Architect and Sr Data Modeler

From: [] On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: Oracle out the door

Thanks for all the replies on this. Senior mgmt. currently is so upset with Oracle that they are not entertaining any of the ideas posted. Regardless, our team is moving forward with some of the ideas posted, i.e. Standard Edition and more consolidation than we already have. For example, we're in the process of moving all of our development instances into a 2 Linux node RAC environment thus eliminating 3 servers.  

From all the posts, it seems Oracle is upsetting companies even more so than in the past. Seems like they're in a catch 22 since if they lower the licensing costs their profits will drop and upset Wall St. But if they don't, they will continue to lose customers and and profit and still upset Wall St.  

On 4/30/08, dba1 mcc <> wrote:

        O.K. Upper level management may NOT care what kind of problem on SQL Server.

        My boss always say: I make decision and you fix problem.                  

        Rich Jesse <> wrote:

                Having added SQL Server 2K/2K5 to my resume in the past year I can offer a

                SQL Server hit list for the seasoned Oracle DBA:                 

  1. Regular rebuilding of indexes and reclaiming space.
  2. Temp "result" tables are the norm for programming.
  3. Escalating Blocking Lock City!
  4. Cursors are evil here.
  5. Troubleshooting is easy: Reboot
  6. A hier-WHO-cical query???
  7. Indexes mixed in with table pages ("Charlie Foxtrot" in military jargon)
  8. Corrupted pages ("blocks" to the Ora DBA).
  9. Everything should be in "dbo", right?
  10. Welcome to 1990!

                Upper management probably won't care about any of this until it's too late.

                At least shoot for EnterpriseDB (paid PostgreSQL) -- they're specifically

                targeting installed Oracle bases.                 



> The new CIO at my current employer brings a lot of
preternatural hate

> for Oracle licensing as well. So much so that the upcoming

> warehouse project for our Oracle OLTP instance is slated to
be on SQL

> Server.
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:39 PM, John Thompson wrote:
>> Company I work for just announced that we're going to
convert all but 2 of

>> our 89 Oracle databases to either SQL Server, MYSQL, or
PostgreSQL. This

>> is due to the high licensing cost. I'm bummed.
> --
> Don Seiler




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