Re: asm on serveral nodes (no RAC)

Can the sales rep point to where this rule is defined in the SIG?

In 2006 I talked an Oracle 'offer' down from EUR. 225.000 to 15.000...... (yes that is twohundredtwentyfive K down to fifteen K) This was including the first couple of years of support.

Oracle sales guy insisted on EE CPU licenses, where I could argument with the SIG in hand that SE1 NUP based was enough. It took two escalations before I got to a 'license specialist' who came up with the SE1 NUP license model after my explanation of the architecture........

To get to the 2nd esaclation I had to threaten to put the whole thing in either ASCII, using awk/sed/grep, or Oracle.

We were talking a system with 5 users, couple of hundred TX/day.

Read the SIG carefully, and let the sales people show you where they find the license need they want to sell.

Best regards,

Carel-Jan Engel

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On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 14:49 -0400, Alex Gorbachev wrote:

> I've just had an interesting follow up with one of the customers --
> Oracle sales rep. was insisting that full RAC license is required to
> run two nodes CRS cluster with clustered ASM and single instance cold
> failover databases.
>
> We are assessing possibility to run ASM instance as failover as well.
> It shouldn't be much different that for simple single failover
> configuration. Let's see if customer is willing to compromise with the
> rather unusual setup and costs savings.
>
> On 31-Mar-08, at 10:44 PM, Dan Norris wrote:
>
> > Alex--good point. I am guilty of frequently ignoring licensing
> > issues in technical discussions, but you're absolutely correct to
> > bring it up. However, I don't know the answer in this case. I
> > suspect that you would have to have a RAC license, but I'm only
> > guessing.
> >
> > I generally regard RAC to be limited to RDBMS, so even clustered ASM
> > doesn't constitute "having RAC" in my book.
> >
> > No matter what angle you take, I don't think I'd create a clustered
> > ASM configuration to support multiple servers with single-instance
> > databases. If I wanted to share a single storage area between
> > multiple development servers running single-instance databases, I'd
> > use a clustered filesystem. The licensing for OCFS2 is pretty cut-
> > and-dried :). I think that's what I said before (just realized it
> > though, so it's nice that I came to the same conclusion twice in a
> > row).
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Alex Gorbachev wrote:
> >> Dan, Jeremy,
> >>
> >> I think it depends on your definitions of "having RAC".
> >> For me running CRS and ASM in *clustered* mode does mean RAC.
> >>
> >> "Having RAC" also might assume having to buy RAC license. Don't
> >> take my licensing knowledge for 100% but...
> >> Recently, Oracle allowed using CRS for free to its customers with
> >> Linux support. Otherwise, you have to buy at least one RAC license.
> >> However, clustered ASM instances - do they require RAC license or
> >> not? I would think they do but its pure speculation.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Alex
> >>
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