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Re: the IN club: Oracle "unpublished" information

From: Nigel Thomas <>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:23:05 -0700 (PDT)
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  1. you want to know how it works? buy Jonathan Lewis's CBO book (and wait for parts 2, 3 etc). Invest some time in following his method (ie Robert the Bruce - try, try and try again); Jonathan gives you some tasty fish, but also the outline of a rod so you can feed yourself. That's what I'd do if I had some free time (I don't - but that's my problem, not Oracle's)
  2. "Is there any recourse to gently nudge Oracle Development "? As a former Oracle (UK) employee - including time in CASE and Apps development - I very much doubt it - at least as far as support goes.

Your curiosity doesn't (in itself) pay the rent on Redwood Shores. Sometimes algorithms which seemed like a good idea just aren't. Sometimes there are bugs. Sometimes there are unintended effects in cases which the designers/developers didn't anticipate; perhaps data volumes are an order of magnitude or two bigger than they expected. Shit happens.  

Probably people like Wolfgang Breitling, Jonathan Lewis, Cary Millsap and others (my former colleague Dave Ensor springs to mind - I'm sorry I can't get to Miracle Scotland in May to meet up again) do the best job of nudging by publicising well researched and more or less non-judgemental "observations". Oracle developers - several of whom lurk or even respond on this list - do have some pride, you know! Point out a problem and they'll see an opportunity for improvement; maybe not in the next release, but eventually.

The channels are there - but they are informal/personal. The Support call centre is simply not designed to do what you want.You can meet Redwood movers and shakers like Graham Wood (another ex-Oracle UK guy big in Oracle server performance) and K Gopalakrishnan - author of Oracle Wait Interface) on this list and at conferences like RMOUG, Miracle and Hotsos. That's the way to learn and influence, I think.

So keep on ferreting about, and good luck!

Regards Nigel

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