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Re: Is Oracle for Solaris x86 ready for prime time?

From: Alex Gorbachev <>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:47:45 -0500
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OK. What are their availability requirements? What is the schedule for planned downtime? What are the losses for unplanned downtime of let's say 5...15 minutes? 1 hour?
Starting from I can it does gets better indeed but how long is out?

I saw customers running happily 10.2 and even 10.1 but I saw as well customer suffering from 10.2 while 9i running rock stable. Not that 9i has no issues but they are known and it took years to identify them and educate staff how to handle those issues and limitations. The biggest problem with 10g I saw so far are the ones hit in critical situations - it just takes longer to troubleshoot and resolve.

I also think people are swallowing 10g auto-magic features and rely less on proactive activities, testing and training. Indeed, why bother if new version of database is managing itself just fine and increased complexity does nothing else but making the database smarter?

I think now it's a prime time for 10g but it's just now! The demo of a real life large critical 10g database running in production for half a year as an achievement confirms that. Anyone interested in the same running 9i? No. That's easy and they are running rock stable for years already.

Anyway, that's a bit of deviation from the original topic...

On 11/20/06, John Kanagaraj <> wrote:
> > If you are looking at 10gR2 for critical production systems than you
> > are amongst pioneers anyway. One can argue that they are running 10g
> > in production for a year or more but definitions of criticality vary.
> >
> Alex,
> FWIW, I saw a live demo of DB Control/ADDM on Oracle's own worldwide Oracle
> Apps Single instance that apparently is 4 TB (?). This was at OOW and the
> demo was part of a presentation by none other than Ahmed Al-Omari. Oracle
> Apps is a pretty complex (in terms of number of objects, users, mid-tier
> technology stacks, size, SQL code and the number of intergrations between
> the 200+ modules). This may have been on oversized hardware (4 Node RAC, 50+
> Apps servers, etc.), but I was quite impressed, actually. I think they have
> been live on 11.5.10 with 10gR2 about 6-8 months at least?
> --
> John Kanagaraj <><
> DB Soft Inc
> Phone: 408-970-7002 (W)
> Disappointment is always inevitable; Discouragement is invariably optional
> ** The opinions and facts contained in this message are entirely mine and do
> not reflect those of my employer or customers **

Best regards,
Alex Gorbachev

The Pythian Group
Sr. Oracle DBA
Received on Mon Nov 20 2006 - 14:47:45 CST

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