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Re: hanging shutdowns

From: Robyn <>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:58:01 -0500
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I understand your position and when I arrived here, I made all the same arguments. I've been told that our legal department insists on a cold backup, and the requirement is non-negotiable. We run full test recoveries on all our major systems on a regular basis and we use the hot backups to do so. None of us doubt that the hot backups are adequate for recovery.

So I guess we're not really 24x7, we're 24x7-15 and that 15 minutes is a sacred cow that I need to leave alone right now ...

Thanks for the input and if I was calling the shots, I wouldn't do it this way. However, I would still need a script that would shut the database down quickly, possibly for maintenance or hardware issues, so I really appreciate the suggestions provided on this thread.


On 2/27/06, Michael Haddon <> wrote:
> I definitely agree, the shutdown is not the problem, it is doing what it is
> supposed to do in order to maintain data integrity and preserve
> transactions. The real questions is 'why do you shutdown at all??', I
> haven't been forced to perform a cold backup on a schedule in years. I
> thought 7X24 really meant 7X24. If the production environment can deal with
> the downtime necessary to perform cold backups, then couldn't that time be
> used to perform batch transactions or some other necessary task.
> I would recommend spending some time on hot backups and showing your boss
> that the software is a little smarter these days and a complete, point in
> time/ or some other time recovery is easy. Take a few days/weeks and show
> him that you can give him an exact copy of his production system anytime he
> wants it. Make him comfortable and your cold backups will be a thing of the
> past, otherwise, get another boss!
> Just my .02
> Mike

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