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RE: Oracle experts are disgusted with SQL Server User Group

From: Aragon, Gabriel (GE Commercial Finance) <gabriel.aragon_at_ge.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 15:50:17 -0500
Message-ID: <DA3854DCCE41EA42B603E39691388AC3213A109D@CINMLVEM05.e2k.ad.ge.com>


I'm not very sure about the legal stuff, but I agree about the moral and = ethical issue, someone that is making money from other's effort should = at least notify and ask permission from the author, and is still worse = when he claims that Tom is "our technologist".=20

BTW, how could someone get the MVP award doing things like this?

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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org]On Behalf Of Post, Ethan
Sent: Jueves, 02 de Diciembre de 2004 01:21 p.m. To: DGoulet_at_vicr.com; oracle-l_at_freelists.org Subject: RE: Oracle experts are disgusted with SQL Server User Group

Not sure I agree, I do think that the "bait" and "hook" technique that SSWUG is using is deceptive. However, if I wanted to publish a newsletter that is simply a set of links and what I think about them and charge people for that then I should be free to do that. It takes time and effort to sift through good material and bad material as well as simply find new/good material on the web. This time and effort is legit and people should be able to charge for this. I can't publish the materials in the newsletter or host the materials but linking should be fine. In this sense SSWUG is just acting as a glorified search engine.

If I want to link to an article from a blog/newsletter whatever, it is just not feasible that everyone go around and ask the author for permission. I think there are some legal battles pertaining to this stuff currently going on. I think people have been able to stop people from linking, not sure.

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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Goulet, Dick
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:10 PM To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: RE: Oracle experts are disgusted with SQL Server User Group

 Well, I'll agree with Don. SSWUG would appear to have crossed a moral/ethical line selling pointers to data that can otherwise be obtained for free & making money off what others have placed in the public domain. I'm no lawyer so I won't comment of the legal aspects. I think they should have at least asked the authors for permission first. At least Don has not placed his scripts in the public domain so he has a right to sell them. Unless you want to do the research & stitching yourself, which I believe if three fourths of the fun.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA

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