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Thomas
I can see this guy is now the envy of his fellow instructors :). After all, if Oracle instructors are the real experts and you are paying the big bucks to be trained by the best, shouldn't they all be OCM's? My experience has been that Oracle puts a lot of competitive pressures on their instructors. Those evaluation sheets are treated VERY seriously.
Just so everyone knows that doesn't reflect my opinion, I have been a lifelong student and sometimes teacher. I feel it is false to believe you can only learn from somebody that is smarter or has better credentials than you. That is one-dimensional thinking. I feel that everyone can teach you something if you only open your ears to listen. The professor I learned the most from in college was the one that didn't have his Ph.D..
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org]On Behalf Of Mercadante, Thomas F
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 7:56 AM
To: 'oracle-l_at_freelists.org'
Subject: RE: *** OCM Preparation ***
Dennis,
You are probably correct. Like I said, he was (in my opinion) on the upper ranges of the intelligence scale. And everything that he knew he probably played with to see if it actually works as advertised.
But he probably never had to walk into and already existing installation and had to deal with what was done in the past. I guess that is my point.
Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional
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From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM]
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 8:47 AM
To: 'oracle-l_at_freelists.org'
Subject: RE: *** OCM Preparation ***
Thomas
Perhaps he had previously practiced as a DBA? I think the point is that he probably has far more than "paper" knowledge of Oracle. He probably spends time outside the classroom actually working with Oracle, creating and executing tests, etc. You know, the stuff we practicing DBAs don't have time to do because we are always under deadline for some mundane tasks we've already done dozens of times.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
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From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org]On
Behalf Of Mercadante, Thomas F
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 7:13 AM
To: 'oracle-l_at_freelists.org'
Subject: RE: *** OCM Preparation ***
One thing about the OCM that bothers me a little bit.
I recently took an Oracle course (9i exam cram). The instructor was a genius. Really. I thought he had the stuff down cold. Knew a lot about how Oracle works. A great instructor. Never said "I'll get back to you". Always has the answer (yes *the* answer). He talked a bit about the OCM exam. Said he took and passed the exam.
What bothered me was that he was not a practicing Oracle DBA - he was an instructor. Now either he has is a genius that can remember everything, or there is something I am missng about the exam. I thought the exam was about testing your skills. If this is so, then how can a non-practicing DBA pass the test?
Am I making any sense?
Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional
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From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM]
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 3:49 PM
To: 'oracle-l_at_freelists.org'
Subject: RE: *** OCM Preparation ***
Jacques
Funny! Only a pro could handle a nonexistent database! Leaves me out. The second part of the article appears in the following issue of Oracle Magazine. It mentions "Recently, the OCM practicum setup was upgraded to release 9.2 of the Oracle Database."
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
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From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org]On
Behalf Of Jacques Kilchoer
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 2:49 PM
To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: RE: *** OCM Preparation ***
The article says "Oracle9i Release 9.0.2 is used for the practicum". I don't think it's fair that they use a secret, unreleased version to test people with.=20
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Darrell Landrum
Here is a great article from a recent issue of Oracle Magazine... http://otn.oracle.com/oramag/oracle/04-mar/o24tech_ocp.html
This link has some info and other links to FAQs as well as exam
requirements.
http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/index.html?dba9i_ocm.html
I haven't take it, but I'd be willing to bet there's an agreement even beyond the typical certification exams that restricts candidates from discussing the content of the practicum. However, these sites have some great information.
FAQ is at http://www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html'unsubscribe' in the subject line.
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