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Re: WebForms = Developer Forms + Reports?

From: Leslie Tierstein <>
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 07:58:21 -0700 (PDT)
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Short answer -- storing forms/reports in the database and running them over the internet is not supported.

You don't say what version of forms/reports you have? Is it 6i?

What speed is your internet connection? If it's fast enough, you could put the forms/reports on an centralized file server and have the users' shortcuts access that. Another alternative people have tried and gotten to work (although Oracle doesn't certify it) is running the forms/reports through Citrix. However, Citrix has its own scalability and licensing (cost) issues.

At one point we were running an 8.1.7 database with webforms and reports over the web using a 9iAS application server also on a Win2K db server (and a Win2k app server). You could check if 8.1.5 works with 9iAS as well and if the customer has the software. If so, no upgrade to the Oracle software would be necessary. But it would still be a non-negligible amount of work to get the forms and reports to work over the web via the App Server. (This has been well documented via numerous White Papers on OTN.)

There is a forms listserv hosted by ODTUG (Oracle Development Tools User Group). ( You could try posting this message there and see if anyone comes up with anything.


-----Original Message-----


[]On Behalf Of Teresa Redmond

Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 3:56 PM


Subject: WebForms = Developer Forms + Reports?  

I have a question, which I have asked in the newsgroup

and got an answer, "WebForms", but my research isn't turning up much.

I can't seem to find what I'm looking for, which means either what I

want can't be done, or I don't know how to explain what I want, or I

haven't found the answer where I've been looking.

Here it is: We now have 8.1.5 running on Win2K Server, and a

Developer/2000 Forms and Reports client/server application that

connects via Net8 and the internet. We wanted to make this into a web

based application but the customer won't pay for the upgrade to the

Oracle software, so we're stuck with only what comes with 8.1.5

Enterprise Edition.

I want to know if it is possible to keep all the

forms and reports inside the database, instead of putting a copy of

all those files on each person's machine. Then, have either a URL or

a shortcut on the desktop that will download the initial .fmx file and

whatever it needs to run, but NOT inside a web page. The files

download and run, just like client/server, but with all files held in

the database until needed.

So: user has icon on desktop for our application just like always.

User clicks on icon: files download and run. User does work, with

files downloading onto machine as click events dictate. When user

closes initial program file, all files delete themselves off of the

machine. Just like servlets/jsp, which I can do, but we already have

all these Forms and Reports files and it would take FOREVER to redo


Is this possible, or am I just dreaming??? And I don't mind RTFM, I

feel as if I've already R_ALL_TFMs on OTN regarding Forms, Reports,

AppServer, Developer Server, Concepts, *everything*... but can't find

what I need. Or just don't understand what I'm reading. :-)

Thanks, and let me know if you need more info.


Teresa Redmond

Programmer/Analyst III

Anteon Corporation

tredmond [at symbol] anteon dot com

(reply-to is my personal address)                 

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