Re: RE: Perm job opening in MA

In case there is doubt, I was just kidding. Please, don't make me feel guilty. I picked on the "excellent phone skills" because phone is such a ubiquitous device that everybody knows how to use it. Actually, in my 42 years of walking through this valley of tears, I cannot recollect ever meeting someone who doesn't know how to use a phone. Asking for excellent phone skills is like asking for a "good driver". Have you ever actually met anyone who claims not to be an expert driver? Most of us have an attitude that the roads are full of goofballs (now I am putting this mildly) who are preventing us from driving the way it should be done. It's the same with "excellent phone skills". What do you think that the reply would be if you asked someone whether she or he "has a good phone skills"? BTW, when I was talking about creative use of English language, I wasn't kidding. The word that I particularly like is "ignoranus", which means "ignorant a**hole".

On 10/29/2003 02:19:52 PM, ryan_oracle_at_cox.net wrote:
> for a fair contracting rate, I could offer training? since Im apparently a renowned expert on the subject.
> >
> > From: John Spencer <johns_at_prostartinc.com>
> > Date: 2003/10/29 Wed PM 01:44:33 EST
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > Subject: RE: RE: Perm job opening in MA
> >
> > Ryan,
> > Thank you for that accurate explanation as to what "excellent phone skills"
> > are. I just got to my email and have not had a chance to respond. I
> > appreciate your assistance.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:30 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> > it means you need to be able to handle stupid questions without losing your
> > temper. the best people to ask on this are the hardware support guys. They
> > get the true 'gems', when it comes to stupid questions. They should provide
> > training to oracle dba's on the topic.
> >
> > I was at a conference resently and I saw a video of a performance analyst
> > helping a client. The performance analyst grabbed the keyboard and beat the
> > client senseless.
> > not exactly the kind of solution they are looking for...
> >
> > it also means you know how to speak english and explain complex material to
> > lay people. Its kind of like going to the doctor because you have a head
> > ache and the doctor recites somethingy ou might hear on ER. Not real helpful
> > to a lay person.
> > >
> > > From: "Igor Neyman" <ineyman_at_perceptron.com>
> > > Date: 2003/10/29 Wed AM 11:24:28 EST
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > Subject: RE: Perm job opening in MA
> > >
> > > LOL!
> > > Mladen, I think you are missed on "off-topic" list -:)
> > >
> > > Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
> > > ineyman_at_perceptron.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Mladen Gogala
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:54 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > > Don't get me wrong, I've recently changed positions and am not
> > > interested,
> > > but what are "phone skills"? I know how to use a phone, and I can do it
> > > in
> > > yoga position with one hand tied behind my back. I've never used a phone
> > > under
> > > water or in space. I use it on a regular basis while commuting or in
> > > restaurants. It helps tremendously with finding a free seat. As for the
> > >
> > > communication over the phone, you should hear my inventive use of the
> > > English
> > > language when I'm talking to telemarketers. Creative assumptions about
> > > their
> > > ancestry and its position on the evolution tree and sexual preferences
> > > of their parents are the most common opener after which I usually take
> > > the
> > > poor soul to the place where no telemarketer has gone before. Do I have
> > > the
> > > right idea about the "phone skills" or you have in mind some extremely
> > > innovative use of phone which would be inappropriate for a good catholic
> > > like
> > > me?
> > >
> > > On 2003.10.28 20:09, John Spencer wrote:
> > > > I hope I am not breaching any rules, but I would like to make it
> > > public that
> > > > I am currently trying to fill a temp to perm position for a Sr level
> > > > Oracle/customer support person in Massachusetts. This person must have
> > > > strong Oracle and Sun Solaris skills and some Java (J2EE and Java
> > > beans)
> > > > experience. Must have excellent phone skills and the ability to work
> > > with
> > > > customers on installs and other issues. Experience must include stored
> > > > procedures and triggers.
> > > >
> > > > Local candidates only please. Please reply directly to me at
> > > > johns_at_prostartinc.com <mailto:johns_at_prostartinc.com>
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again for your time.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > John Spencer
> > > > Sr. Staffing Consultant
> > > > ProStart Inc.
> > > > 603-893-7772 ext 45
> > > > 603-893-7704 fax
> > > > mailto:johns_at_prostartinc.com <mailto:johns_at_prostartinc.com>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mladen Gogala
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