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Re: security without using different usernames

From: Mark Richard <mrichard_at_transurban.com.au>
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:28:47 +1000
Message-Id: <25929.337917@fatcity.com>


I think the idea was always "roles plus setting current schema" - not just roles on their own. Heck, I'd be so paranoid that I'd make the default schema empty rather than belonging to a specific site so that if the executable isn't renamed then it connects to an empty database - it will make it much easier to track the chance.

I was considering suggesting looking at the IP address to try and determine originating site but it carries too much risk - dynamic IP's, changing IP's, etc. It seems like renaming the executable might be the safest approach - as long as you make the default schema redundant.

I guess you might have some impact on your ability to tune and debug the application and monitor usage when everyone is connecting as the same user but that will be something you'll have to live with. I guess you could shoe-horn some other parameters in with the "set schema" command if different sites have different performance demands (sort_area_size, etc) - just create a config table in the default schema and write a fancy logon trigger.

                                                                                                                                      
                      "Ryan"                                                                                                          
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roles wont work. The tables in the different schemas all have the same names. The application is not coded to 'schemaA.table'. Its just set to the table.

roles plus setting the schema is possible to be 'safe' with security. I like that idea.

 you can create multiple roles also . So if you have schema a,b,c and they  use Z as userid to login then create role_a, role_b, role_c where role_a  has permissions for object in schema a and role_b has permissions for  schema b . Enable proper role at the time of startup ( embadded in client  code ).

 -ak

  I know this is terrible design, but the GUI was created by a software   engineering group that is seperate from the database group. Its not   scalable. So Im trying to come up with a more scalable method. I have no   power to change their gui. It rides on the database. I have to live with   it. This is not a high enough transaction database to warrant seperate   instances.

  We have a variety of customers. Each of them has their own versions of   data. However, the schema is exactly the same. These tables can get huge,   so we dont want to throw them all into the same schema.

  Right now, due to the fact that the GUI has a series of logins that are   the same across clients, each client has its own instance. This isnt very   scalable as we get more business. We have to create another instance and   ingest data to it.

  Id like to find a way to get all the clients in the same instance with   just different schemas and tablespaces. One thing I may have control over   would be to slightly rename the executable. If you check v$session, in a   client-server application the name of the product connecting to the   database is recording. I can handle security based off of that.

  My question is what would be the best way? Cant do synonyms for this   since its the same login. I think I saw somewhere that there is a session   based 'set' command where you can say use this schema. I think it was on   asktom and in reference to a question about public synonyms. I cant find   it. Anyone know it?

  Also is it viable to base a context off of what is in v$sesion with a   logon trigger? How would I 'redirect' all queries to a specific schema?

  To stress, I cant change the application. Different group with different   skillsets. Any suggestions?

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