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From: M.Godlewski <mcgodlewski_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:30:18 -0700 (PDT)
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John Kanagaraj <john.kanagaraj_at_hds.com> wrote:Jesse,

You could always get around this problem by obtaining an upto date TNSNAMES.ORA on any Names-aware client using the 'namesctl dump_tnsnames' command that will create/update the tnsnames.ora with the entries from Names servers. I would suggest renaming the original tnsnames.ora _just_ before doing this, and having some script check the sizes of the created file (just in case).

John Kanagaraj
Oracle Applications DBA
DBSoft Inc
(W): 408-970-7002

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse, Rich [mailto:Rich.Jesse_at_qtiworld.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:25 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: MicroSlop DTC
>
>
> Unfortunately, it's not just a problem with this product. Some Oracle
> products like OEM can incorrectly populate TNSNAMES.ORA "for
> you" because of
> course that's always the best thing to do (and isn't there
> another Oracle
> product that requires it or am I confusing that with the
> semi-Intelligent
> Agent's requirement of a LISTENER.ORA?).
>
> And Quest's QCO will largely not work correctly in v2.4 (and
> to some extent
> in 2.5) without a correctly populated TNSNAMES.ORA (sorry
> Jacques!). I went
> around and around with Quest Support as to why this is
> incorrect and why I
> refuse to manually populate a TNSNAMES.ORA on some or all clients.
> Supposedly, it'll be fixed in v3.
>
> Desperately trying to get rid of all TNSNAMES.ORAs on all
> non-DBA boxes...
>
>
> Rich
>
> Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator
> rjesse_at_qtiworld.com Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Goulet, Dick [mailto:DGoulet_at_vicr.com]
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:15 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: MicroSlop DTC
> >
> >
> > Yes, as well as SQL*Plus and ODBCTST.
> >
> > Dick Goulet
> > Senior Oracle DBA
> > Oracle Certified 8i DBA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:59 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> > Hum, does tnsping resolve the service correctly?
> >
> > Ron Thomas
> >
> > 9.2.0.1.0 On Win 2K.
> >
> > Dick Goulet
> > Senior Oracle DBA
> > Oracle Certified 8i DBA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:54 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> > I've seen this happen with older versions of the sqlnet
> > client (Different application, same
> > symptom). What version of the client are you using?
> >
> > Ron Thomas
> > Hypercom, Inc
> > rthomas_at_hypercom.com
> > Each new user of a new system uncovers a new class of bugs.
> > -- Kernighan
> >
> >
> >
> > DGoulet_at_vicr.com
> >
> > To All, especially any WEB developers out there.
> >
> > We've a WEB based application that uses MS DTC.
> > OK, so we turned on XA in the
> > database, but the web servers do not want to play with our
> > normal ONmase setup. Instead they only
> > want to work with a TNSNAMES.ORA file in the appriopriate
> > place. I've been all over MicroSlop
> > Technet and Metalink as well as several other IIS sites with
> > no results. Therefore anyone know why
> > this is??
> >
> > Dick Goulet
> > Senior Oracle DBA
> > Oracle Certified 8i DBA
> --
> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net
> --
> Author: Jesse, Rich
> INET: Rich.Jesse_at_qtiworld.com
>
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<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>John Kanagaraj &lt;john.kanagaraj_at_hds.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">Jesse,<BR><BR>You could always get around this problem by obtaining an upto date<BR>TNSNAMES.ORA on any Names-aware client using the 'namesctl dump_tnsnames'<BR>command that will create/update the tnsnames.ora with the entries from Names<BR>servers. I would suggest renaming the original tnsnames.ora _just_ before<BR>doing this, and having some script check the sizes of the created file (just<BR>in case). <BR><BR>John Kanagaraj<BR>Oracle Applications DBA<BR>DBSoft Inc<BR>(W): 408-970-7002<BR><BR>What would you see if you were allowed to look back at your life at the end<BR>of your journey in this earth?<BR><BR>** The opinions and statements above are entirely my own and not those of my<BR>employer or clients **<BR><BR>&gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; From: Jesse, Rich [mailto:Rich.Jesse_at_qtiworld.com]<BR>&gt; Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:25 AM<BR>&gt; To: Multiple recipients of
 list ORACLE-L<BR>&gt; Subject: RE: MicroSlop DTC<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Unfortunately, it's not just a problem with this product. Some Oracle<BR>&gt; products like OEM can incorrectly populate TNSNAMES.ORA "for <BR>&gt; you" because of<BR>&gt; course that's always the best thing to do (and isn't there <BR>&gt; another Oracle<BR>&gt; product that requires it or am I confusing that with the <BR>&gt; semi-Intelligent<BR>&gt; Agent's requirement of a LISTENER.ORA?).<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; And Quest's QCO will largely not work correctly in v2.4 (and <BR>&gt; to some extent<BR>&gt; in 2.5) without a correctly populated TNSNAMES.ORA (sorry <BR>&gt; Jacques!). I went<BR>&gt; around and around with Quest Support as to why this is <BR>&gt; incorrect and why I<BR>&gt; refuse to manually populate a TNSNAMES.ORA on some or all clients.<BR>&gt; Supposedly, it'll be fixed in v3.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Desperately trying to get rid of all TNSNAMES.ORAs on all <BR>&gt; non-DBA boxes...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
 <BR>&gt; Rich<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator<BR>&gt; rjesse_at_qtiworld.com Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; &gt; From: Goulet, Dick [mailto:DGoulet_at_vicr.com]<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:15 PM<BR>&gt; &gt; To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L<BR>&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: MicroSlop DTC<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Yes, as well as SQL*Plus and ODBCTST.<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Dick Goulet<BR>&gt; &gt; Senior Oracle DBA<BR>&gt; &gt; Oracle Certified 8i DBA <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:59 PM<BR>&gt; &gt; To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Hum, does tnsping resolve the service correctly?<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Ron Thomas<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 9.2.0.1.0 On Win 2K.<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Dick Goulet<BR>&gt; &gt; Senior Oracle DBA<BR>&gt; &gt;
 Oracle Certified 8i DBA<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:54 PM<BR>&gt; &gt; To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; I've seen this happen with older versions of the sqlnet <BR>&gt; &gt; client (Different application, same<BR>&gt; &gt; symptom). What version of the client are you using?<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Ron Thomas<BR>&gt; &gt; Hypercom, Inc<BR>&gt; &gt; rthomas_at_hypercom.com<BR>&gt; &gt; Each new user of a new system uncovers a new class of bugs. <BR>&gt; &gt; -- Kernighan<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; DGoulet_at_vicr.com<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; To All, especially any WEB developers out there.<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; We've a WEB based application that uses MS DTC. <BR>&gt; &gt; OK, so we turned on XA in the<BR>&gt; &gt; database, but the web servers do not want to play with our <BR>&gt; &gt; normal ONmase setup. Instead they
 only<BR>&gt; &gt; want to work with a TNSNAMES.ORA file in the appriopriate <BR>&gt; &gt; place. I've been all over MicroSlop<BR>&gt; &gt; Technet and Metalink as well as several other IIS sites with <BR>&gt; &gt; no results. Therefore anyone know why<BR>&gt; &gt; this is??<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Dick Goulet<BR>&gt; &gt; Senior Oracle DBA<BR>&gt; &gt; Oracle Certified 8i DBA<BR>&gt; -- <BR>&gt; Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net<BR>&gt; -- <BR>&gt; Author: Jesse, Rich<BR>&gt; INET: Rich.Jesse@qtiworld.com<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com<BR>&gt; San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services<BR>&gt; ---------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>&gt; To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message<BR>&gt; to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in<BR>&gt; the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L<BR>&gt;
 (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may<BR>&gt; also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).<BR>&gt; <BR>-- <BR>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net<BR>-- <BR>Author: John Kanagaraj<BR>INET: john.kanagaraj@hds.com<BR><BR>Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com<BR>San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services<BR>---------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message<BR>to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in<BR>the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L<BR>(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may<BR>also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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