Message-Id: <25929.337861@fatcity.com> From: "M.Godlewski" Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: System --0-1121121821-1058290218=:33868 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii John Kanagaraj wrote:Jesse, You could always get around this problem by obtaining an upto date TNSNAMES.ORA on any Names-aware client using the 'namesctl dump_tnsnames' command that will create/update the tnsnames.ora with the entries from Names servers. I would suggest renaming the original tnsnames.ora _just_ before doing this, and having some script check the sizes of the created file (just in case). John Kanagaraj Oracle Applications DBA DBSoft Inc (W): 408-970-7002 What would you see if you were allowed to look back at your life at the end of your journey in this earth? ** The opinions and statements above are entirely my own and not those of my employer or clients ** > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesse, Rich [mailto:Rich.Jesse@qtiworld.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:25 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: MicroSlop DTC > > > Unfortunately, it's not just a problem with this product. Some Oracle > products like OEM can incorrectly populate TNSNAMES.ORA "for > you" because of > course that's always the best thing to do (and isn't there > another Oracle > product that requires it or am I confusing that with the > semi-Intelligent > Agent's requirement of a LISTENER.ORA?). > > And Quest's QCO will largely not work correctly in v2.4 (and > to some extent > in 2.5) without a correctly populated TNSNAMES.ORA (sorry > Jacques!). I went > around and around with Quest Support as to why this is > incorrect and why I > refuse to manually populate a TNSNAMES.ORA on some or all clients. > Supposedly, it'll be fixed in v3. > > Desperately trying to get rid of all TNSNAMES.ORAs on all > non-DBA boxes... > > > Rich > > Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator > rjesse@qtiworld.com Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Goulet, Dick [mailto:DGoulet@vicr.com] > > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:15 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: RE: MicroSlop DTC > > > > > > Yes, as well as SQL*Plus and ODBCTST. > > > > Dick Goulet > > Senior Oracle DBA > > Oracle Certified 8i DBA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:59 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > Hum, does tnsping resolve the service correctly? > > > > Ron Thomas > > > > 9.2.0.1.0 On Win 2K. > > > > Dick Goulet > > Senior Oracle DBA > > Oracle Certified 8i DBA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:54 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > I've seen this happen with older versions of the sqlnet > > client (Different application, same > > symptom). What version of the client are you using? > > > > Ron Thomas > > Hypercom, Inc > > rthomas@hypercom.com > > Each new user of a new system uncovers a new class of bugs. > > -- Kernighan > > > > > > > > DGoulet@vicr.com > > > > To All, especially any WEB developers out there. > > > > We've a WEB based application that uses MS DTC. > > OK, so we turned on XA in the > > database, but the web servers do not want to play with our > > normal ONmase setup. Instead they only > > want to work with a TNSNAMES.ORA file in the appriopriate > > place. I've been all over MicroSlop > > Technet and Metalink as well as several other IIS sites with > > no results. 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John Kanagaraj <john.kanagaraj@hds.com> wrote:
Jesse,

You could always get around this problem by obtaining an upto date
TNSNAMES.ORA on any Names-aware client using the 'namesctl dump_tnsnames'
command that will create/update the tnsnames.ora with the entries from Names
servers. I would suggest renaming the original tnsnames.ora _just_ before
doing this, and having some script check the sizes of the created file (just
in case).

John Kanagaraj
Oracle Applications DBA
DBSoft Inc
(W): 408-970-7002

What would you see if you were allowed to look back at your life at the end
of your journey in this earth?

** The opinions and statements above are entirely my own and not those of my
employer or clients **

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse, Rich [mailto:Rich.Jesse@qtiworld.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:25 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: MicroSlop DTC
>
>
> Unfortunately, it's not just a problem with this product. Some Oracle
> products like OEM can incorrectly populate TNSNAMES.ORA "for
> you" because of
> course that's always the best thing to do (and isn't there
> another Oracle
> product that requires it or am I confusing that with the
> semi-Intelligent
> Agent's requirement of a LISTENER.ORA?).
>
> And Quest's QCO will largely not work correctly in v2.4 (and
> to some extent
> in 2.5) without a correctly populated TNSNAMES.ORA (sorry
> Jacques!). I went
> around and around with Quest Support as to why this is
> incorrect and why I
> refuse to manually populate a TNSNAMES.ORA on some or all clients.
> Supposedly, it'll be fixed in v3.
>
> Desperately trying to get rid of all TNSNAMES.ORAs on all
> non-DBA boxes...
>
>
> Rich
>
> Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator
> rjesse@qtiworld.com Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Goulet, Dick [mailto:DGoulet@vicr.com]
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:15 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: MicroSlop DTC
> >
> >
> > Yes, as well as SQL*Plus and ODBCTST.
> >
> > Dick Goulet
> > Senior Oracle DBA
> > Oracle Certified 8i DBA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:59 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> > Hum, does tnsping resolve the service correctly?
> >
> > Ron Thomas
> >
> > 9.2.0.1.0 On Win 2K.
> >
> > Dick Goulet
> > Senior Oracle DBA
> > Oracle Certified 8i DBA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:54 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> > I've seen this happen with older versions of the sqlnet
> > client (Different application, same
> > symptom). What version of the client are you using?
> >
> > Ron Thomas
> > Hypercom, Inc
> > rthomas@hypercom.com
> > Each new user of a new system uncovers a new class of bugs.
> > -- Kernighan
> >
> >
> >
> > DGoulet@vicr.com
> >
> > To All, especially any WEB developers out there.
> >
> > We've a WEB based application that uses MS DTC.
> > OK, so we turned on XA in the
> > database, but the web servers do not want to play with our
> > normal ONmase setup. Instead they only
> > want to work with a TNSNAMES.ORA file in the appriopriate
> > place. I've been all over MicroSlop
> > Technet and Metalink as well as several other IIS sites with
> > no results. Therefore anyone know why
> > this is??
> >
> > Dick Goulet
> > Senior Oracle DBA
> > Oracle Certified 8i DBA
> --
> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net
> --
> Author: Jesse, Rich
> INET: Rich.Jesse@qtiworld.com
>
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