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Re: High availability and upgrades

From: Tanel Poder <tanel.poder.003_at_mail.ee>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:35:58 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.005C4474.20030710102924@fatcity.com>

Hi!
 

Is this your own-written app?
 

If you want performance, control and
no-data-loss reliability:
 

1) Have 2 completely independent
databases
2) Have your application servers
multiplex
   all DML requests to both

database servers
   
   That means, if your

client inserts something,
   then app layer does one insert

on first DB
   and the same insert in

second DB too.
   
   It can be more efficient

than standby
   database in maximum

protection mode,
   because DMLs are sent to

databases
   parallelly, not through

primary to standby.
 
   Depending on application you

could commit
   done either when both servers

acnowledge
   commit, or when only one

acknowledges it.
   In that case you could check

whether second
   instance managed to commit

when next request
   is sent to it. That could

give some
   performance practically

without losing any
   reliability

features.
 
   Also, since you now have

two identical
   databases, you

can make your app servers
   load balance

the selects.
 

3) Before you shut down one database for

   maintenance, you first

configure your
   app servers to use only one

database
   AND set change logging on on

active DB.
   There are several ways for

change logging,
   starting from customer

triggers ending
   with logminer.
 

4) When you bring second db up again
you
   first synchronize all changes

manually,
   several times if needed, and

when the
   log of changes is sufficiently

low you
   just halt both app servers for

very short
   time, do the final

synchronization and
   activate both databases

again.
 

If you upgrade your application, will you change the schema as well?
Then you must move from physical to logical level, where you have some kind of mapping, which columns of old tables match columns in new tables.
 

That way you have two separate fully
functional databases, no Stanby or RAC restrictions or additional licence costs etc. If you have a packaged 3rd party app, then my post is quite useless, but the idea should be ok.
 

Tanel.
 
 

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