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Re: Passwords and authentication

From: Arup Nanda <orarup_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:06:50 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.005B6FF7.20030620204918@fatcity.com>


That is for encypting password while tranmitting over Oracle Net, the password itself must be entered in clear text.

> What about
> SQLNET.ENCRYPTION_TYPES_CLIENT= (rc4_256)
>
> SQLNET.ENCRYPTION_SERVER = accepted
>
> SQLNET.ENCRYPTION_CLIENT = requested
>
> SQLNET.CRYPTO_SEED = "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog."
>
> in sqlnet.ora
>
>
>
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> Passwords and authenticationRaj,
>
> My first question will be how you would want to pass the encrypted
> password. sqlplus <username>/<encyptedpass>? But won't the encrypted
> password be known before making the connection? If so, then the user
> who will encrypt the password will also know how to decrypt them.
> What's the advantage in doing that?
>
> Are you concerned someone sniffing the network uncovers a clear
> password? If so, have you considered network security with password
> encryption by Oracle Net?
>
> If that is not the concern but rather you don't want the users to know
> the real password, here is a solution you might be interested. It's
> part of a elaborate application security design. Please read on if you
> are interested.
>
> You would have user called SECUSER with only table APP_USERS. The
> table has two columns - APP_USER and APP_PASS, in encrypted manner,
> with Triple DES Encryption. The user also has one function -
> check_app_password, which accepts two parameters - the userid and the
> password and returns a string. The return value is YES is the password
> supplied is correct and NO, if it isn't. It does not shw the correct
> password, ever; just shows if the supplied password is correct or not.
> This function is defined as DEFINER rights. All users get an execute
> privilege on this function, nothing else on the rest of the objects of
> the SECUSER user.
>
> Inside the function, the password is retrieved from the table,
> decrypted with the key inside the procedure and matched with the
> supplied one. Another function is provided to encrypt the password
> using teh same key. For more ecurity, the userid and password
> combination can encrypted, not just the password. If you want I can
> give you the code for the functions.
>
> When the app user connects, the connection is done through a generic
> id, that, after the conenction, validates the password using the
> function and authenticates the user. If the password is not correct,
> the user is booted out.
>
> Now comes other issues - fine grained access control and fine grained
> auditing. These features need to have a sepcific named database user.
> However, that can be easily fixed by setting up an application context
> and passing the app_user value to a context attribute. This attribute
> can now be tracked, rather than the userid.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Arup Nanda
> www.proligence.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jamadagni, Rajendra
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:19 AM
> Subject: Passwords and authentication
>
>
> Is it possible to connect to database using encrypted passwords?
> Using sqlplus?
>
> Thanks
> Raj
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