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Re: Teradata banned from IOUG???

From: Jared Still <jkstill_at_cybcon.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:10:10 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.0055089F.20030218101010@fatcity.com>

Well said Dan.

Jared

On Tuesday 18 February 2003 09:30, Daniel W. Fink wrote:
> IOUG is a volunteer organization. If you don't like something about it,
> you can change it from the inside by becoming involved. Remember, the
> Board Of Directors election is currently open and it is a way to voice
> your opinion. Also, send feedback about things you don't like, offer
> solutions and offer to assist in making the change (the most
> important!). Don't like the articles in SELECT? Offer to write one or be
> an editor. Don't like the content on the website? Become a tip miner.
>
> IOUG-A Live is also volunteer run. Speakers are volunteers, many of the
> workers are volunteers. As a speaker, the amount of time (and expenses I
> pay for myself as do many others) spent on the papers and presentation
> is high. I think it is worth it, as long as I can help 1 person be a
> better technician. I try to make the paper and presentation as accurate
> and helpful as I can. In the past, I have had no support (financial or
> otherwise) from my employers in attending/speaking at conferences, but I
> consider it worth my time. If you don't like the lineup of speakers,
> submit for next year.
>
> For those who are attendees, it is important to show support to the
> speakers you respect and the topics that interest you. How many of you
> fill out the session evaluations? Do you rate the presentations on
> entertainment value or meaningful content? Do you encourage other people
> to attend the 'good' presentations? Do you fill out the conference
> evaluation?
>
> Our local user group has seen Oracle's involvement decrease drastically
> over the past few years. Recently, thanks to an excellent Oracle
> contact, who is a long time contributor to our organization, we are
> meeting together to find ways to help each other. Of course, the sales
> folks want to know "How many new $$$ can we get by pitching new products
> at meetings?" (strictly forbidden at our meetings if it parades as a
> technical session). We are finding creative ways to get the groups
> together, such as having Oracle host a SIG meeting in exchange for a
> brief sales pitch at the beginning, establishing a specific Vendor track
> at our annual Traning Days. Attendees know that the intent of the
> pitch/presentation and they also know that the technical sessions will
> be technical and not marketing.
>
> IOUG can survive without Oracle, TUSC or myself. The question is whether
> or not that is for the best. Oracle and TUSC employees can provide some
> great sessions and information. They can also provide fluff and bad
> information. If we provide constructive feedback, the organization will
> either change or begin losing membership and disappear.
>
> Dan Fink
>
> Peter Barnett wrote:
> >It seems to me that IOUG has become a wholly owned
> >subsidiary of TUSC. TUSC in turn has an incestuous
> >relationship with Oracle. All very cozy.
> >

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