Re: Teradata baned from IOUG???

Pete,

I used to get your newsletter, and even resubscribed after your big move, but then lost track of it.

Feel free to publish subscription info here on Oracle-L.

Welcome aboard!

Jared

On Tuesday 18 February 2003 09:19, Pete Sharman wrote:
> April
>
> I'm afraid I can't answer what Oracle DOES do for IOUG, being a lowly
> scumbag consultant, but one thing I can suggest to you and any other
> user group co-ordinator types is to send me (well in advance)
> notification of your events. I run a DBA mailing list that gets mail
> sent out monthly if I have the time, and you may hit some of your
> constituents that way. It's a worldwide distribution list, so I'm not
> sure whether anyone from your area is on it, but it certainly won't harm
> anyone to include that information as needed.
>
> I missed the beginning of this thread since I only subscribed to
> oracle-l last night, so I can't comment on the rest of it.
>
> Pete
>
> "Controlling developers is like herding cats."
>
> Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
>
> "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!"
>
> Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Wells
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:24 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> It would be great to find out what Oracle DOES do for IOUG... and other
> OUGs for that matter. I can't get them to even tell people about
> TSOUG... let alone actually GIVE us anything (meeting room, or anything
> else). Most of the time I can't get OUR sales rep to get back to me to
> tell me if he is still telling his contacts in the area that we even
> exist!
>
>
> April Wells
> Oracle DBA
> Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
> minds -- Albert Einstein
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:00 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Well said. It becomes a problem when TUSC aka IOUG starts censoring
> papers and vendors for OW and IOUG-A on the grounds that it doesn't
> conform with the slick TUSC messages (right or wrong as they were).
>
> Just out of curiosity: What is it that Oracle provides that IOUG can't
> live without? In Denmark (which is about the size of Ada, Oklahoma :) )
> we are grateful for being able to borrow a meeting room at the Oracle
> building for our events, but we could just as easily get a room
> somewhere else. That's about it. So we get by fine.
>
> Mogens
>
> Peter Barnett wrote:
>
>
> It seems to me that IOUG has become a wholly owned
>
> subsidiary of TUSC. TUSC in turn has an incestuous
>
> relationship with Oracle. All very cozy.
>
>
>
> No real complaint about the arrangements. Someone has
>
> to step up to the plate if IOUG is going to continue
>
> to be a viable organization and in this economic
>
> climate few can afford to do it.
>
>
>
> Should IOUG be able to survive without Oracle?
>
> Probably. Will it be able to survive without Oracle?
>
> I doubt it.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Jonathan Lewis <mailto:jonathan_at_jlcomp.demon.co.uk>
> <jonathan_at_jlcomp.demon.co.uk>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> It should be possible for the IOUG to live without
>
> Oracle's support. Obviously it would be better
>
> for all concerned if there is some measure of
>
> co-operation, and there's clearly no need for
>
> bloody-minded conflict. But if the IOUG just
>
> keeps doing things that the users want, then
>
> the users should be able to support it in the
>
> complete absence of any input from Oracle.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Jonathan Lewis
>
> http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk
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> The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ
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>
>
> MacGregor, Ian A. wrote:
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>
>
> The IOUG cannot live without Oracle's support, but
>
>
>
> Oracle can survive
>
> without the IOUG.

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