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RE: Orawomen or Nursing? [OT]

From: Hand, Michael T <HANDM_at_polaroid.com>
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 08:00:31 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.0052A1C0.20030108080031@fatcity.com>


Lisa,  

Nursing is no place for a woman; if you think DBA'ing is stressful, you ain't seen nothing yet My wife is an RN and, while it may no be scientific, I attribute our difficulty in conceiving and miscarriage to job stress working on an understaffed hospital floor. That was 7+ years ago and it has gotten worse with state and federal cutbacks. Currently, at some facilities, an 80% turnover is common. Unless working conditions improve drastically in the next 10 years, we will use all our influence to steer our two daughters away from nursing. And be glad you work where a gross error only results in a mangled database, not human tragedy.  

FWIW
Mike

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Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:34 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Well, it's been a while since I was in college (1999) but I always felt singled out in a class. Some teachers, that were as old as the hills, truly felt that women should not be in science and did not hesitate to say so. Other teachers could not keep their eyes off my legs - I had to leave work and go directly to school for years. Never mind complaining, the department didn't care. There was only one woman professor, but she taught advanced AI. I never got to take any of her classes. I never saw a female physics or math professor at the university.

I had one (male) algebra teacher tell me that "maybe you just shouldn't study math." However it was a female teacher at a community college that finally got me through 3 quarters calculus. To this day I credit her with making me feel that I was capable of understanding higher math and pushing me and the whole class to do so.

I didn't finish my bachelor's, I didn't need to and I didn't need the stress. But I can see how the declining IT market (no 22-year-old CIOs anymore) paired with this kind of treatment in school would push a detail-oriented young woman to study something else.

Personally I wish I would have become a nurse.

Just my 2 cents, for whatever it's worth.

Lisa Koivu
Oracle No-degree Administrator
Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
5259 Coconut Creek Parkway
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 33063

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Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Recently this list had a discussion of female Oracle DBAs. The consensus was

that the numbers were increasing, which I view as a good thing. Here is an article with industry statistics saying that the number of women in IT is decreasing. http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/career/article.php/1564501
<http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/career/article.php/1564501>
Any theories?

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

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