Actually, he isn't. There is another guy, named Scott Heisey, who teaches
an OPS/RAC version of this course. He is also supposed to be one of the
great sages of the Oracle Corp. I've attended Scott Gossett's course and it
was fabulous. I've only heard about Scott Heisey and it is my great wish to
go to his course.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:wisernet100_at_yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:24 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Oracle Internals course
>
>
> that I know of yes unfortunately, because I believe Scott is the only
> one teaching the classes.
>
> Is there a separate and distinct Oracle education site for the UK and
> Europe?
>
> Rachel
> --- Mark Leith <mark_at_cool-tools.co.uk> wrote:
> > Are these Internals classes only available in the US?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Carmichael
> > Sent: 29 October 2002 11:04
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: Re: Oracle Internals course
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > I didn't mean to imply that you were going into damagement!
> >
> > I was lucky enough to have someone point me to "seminars"
> and figured
> > I'd share my luck.
> >
> > I think the reason they don't publicize it is that he is
> the only one
> > teaching it and it's full without publicizing. Can you imagine if
> > they
> > made it generally available? He'd have time to do nothing else!
> >
> > Rachel
> >
> > --- Tom Pall <tpall_at_realtime.net> wrote:
> > > Rachel, I'm not bucking for a management slot by being clueless
> > about
> > > the
> > > details. Really I'm not. I registered online for the internals
> > > course by
> > > searching for it. I just kind of assumed from what Scott
> said that
> > I
> > > just
> > > managed to luck out when I searched for the course and
> found it. I
> > > mistakenly assumed the course was quietly being removed
> from online
> > > registration after hearing Scott's statements about hiding and not
> > > publicizing the course.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:58 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > > I registered for it online, at education.oracle.com
> > > >
> > > > you have to search on seminars, not classes. It's difficult to
> > > find,
> > > > but it IS there
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Tom Pall <tpall_at_realtime.net> wrote:
> > > > > RE: Oracle Internals courseThat rumor's been going on for
> > > versions
> > > > > now. As has been Scott's desire to offer a two week internals
> > > > > course. Course participants would sign all sorts of
> > > non-disclosure
> > > > > forms then get a scaled down version of what's taught to
> > Customer
> > > > > Support. Wait a minute! Customer Support takes these courses?
> > > Surely
> > > > > not all the Silver Support people I've called. A difficulty
> > with
> > > a
> > > > > two week course is that the very DBAs most likely to benefit
> > from
> > > the
> > > > > course are the ones least likely to be let free for two weeks.
> > > > >
> > > > > The internals course is slated to be yanked every time a new
> > > version
> > > > > of Oracle comes out. Why teach internals when there are no
> > > > > initialization parameters and the database maintains and tunes
> > > > > itself? There's been an economic downturn and Oracle
> DBAs have
> > > lost
> > > > > their jobs. But anybody know an Oracle DBA who lost his job
> > > because
> > > > > a later version doesn't require a DBA? Oracle on CDs 1,2 and
> > 3,
> > > huh?
> > > > > I think if I dig enough I can find that old version of Oracle
> > I
> > > had
> > > > > that came on a single diskette.
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott says the internals course is purposely hidden. You have
> > to
> > > > > call Oracle directly and ask for it. A number of people
> > > registered
> > > > > for the course from the paper or online catalogs, showed up
> > then
> > > > > complained that they weren't about to get anything out of the
> > > > > course..
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Nick Wagner
> > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 3:23 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: Oracle Internals course
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > rumor has it that this course is not going to be
> > > offered/modified
> > > > > for the 9.2 release of Oracle. Can anyone confirm or deny it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Nick
> > > > >
> > > > > p.s. Had a close friend take this class, and they also came
> > > back
> > > > > extremely pleased with it.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:wisernet100_at_yahoo.com]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:19 PM
> > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > > Subject: Re: Oracle Internals course
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott is the "instructors's instructor"
> > > > >
> > > > > he learns the new features, then teaches them to the
> > > instructors so
> > > > >
> > > > > they can teach them to you
> > > > >
> > > > > I had the pleasure of taking those classes with Scott a few
> > > years
> > > > > ago
> > > > > as well. He's a great teacher.
> > > > >
> > > > > If he is ever presenting at any conference you go to, GO SEE
> > > HIM
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Tom Pall <tpall_at_realtime.net> wrote:
> > > > > > I took that very course with Scott a few years ago. Yup,
> > > Scott
> > > > > flies
> > > > > > through the Internals and Dump/Traces courses with lots of
> > > extra
> > > > > > material to
> > > > > > spare. It's really refreshing to hear him tell the class
> > how
> > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > developers
> > > > > > documented something then tell how it's actually
> built. He
> > > keeps
> > > > > a
> > > > > > database
> > > > > > running in his notebook to prove what he says.
> Scott's one
> > > great
> > > > >
> > > > > > teacher.
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L"
> > > <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:53 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just wanted to say...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you have a chance to take the Oracle Internals course
> > with
> > > > > Scott
> > > > > > Gossett
> > > > > > at Oracle, I highly recommend it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I wish I knew half of what he knows!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The course isn't included in the OCP tracks, I think it
> > > should be
> > > > >
> > > > > > given a
> > > > > > higher profile though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Patrice Boivin
> > > > > > Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des
> > systemes
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > E-Mail: boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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