Seems to me that OOW became more market-oriented after Oracle and IOUG
parted ways 8-10 years ago. I seem to remember the first couple of years
after IOUG became disinvolved that OOW was just awful. It's actually
improved, IMHO, quite a bit since then.
OOW's still a marketing lovefest, though...
--Walt Weaver
Bozeman, Montana
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Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:29 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
I was being a little bit sarcy ("sarcastic" for those
not as lazy with their pronunciation as me)...
I suppose I was just reminicising back to the days in
Oz where "OpenWorld" was synonymous with "really large
user group meeting".
I was a little disappointed at Copenhagen openworld -
generally the only non-oracle presentations that
seemed to have been permitted were those that 100%
sang Oracle's praises. And somehow having
/*+parallel(37)*/ tracks makes it a little awkward to
catch the presentations that you want to see :-(
Don't get me wrong - in most of those presentations,
the praise was justified, but in several others, the
praise was along the lines of: "we bought this, we've
only done the examples in the doco, they worked, so it
will definitely work for every possible scenario
including yours"...
Cheers
Connor
- Jeremiah Wilton <jwilton_at_speakeasy.net> wrote: >
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, [iso-8859-1] Connor McDonald
> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone remember the days when there were
> > non-Oracle people allowed to speak at OpenWorlds ?
> You
> > know, there were actually presentations that
> didn't
> > sound like you had accidentally dropped into a
> > car-salesman's convention
>
> I have spoken at OOW for the last three years, and I
> have never worked
> for Oracle. Hopefully, I have never sounded like a
> shill for Oracle.
> If anything, I derive perverse pleasure from making
> fun of Oracle in
> my presentations, just to see if I can get myself
> uninvited next year.
>
> It is true, that presenters are predominantly Oracle
> employees, and
> major Oracle customers and partners. This limits
> the number of
> presentations having technical merit. I only attend
> OOW to present
> papers, to meet you all, and then only if admission
> is free.
>
> --
> Jeremiah Wilton
> http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwilton
>
>
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Connor
> >
> > --- Rachel Carmichael <wisernet100_at_yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > > Not this year... we have several highly visible
> apps
> > > going live
> > > anywhere from 10/31 through 11/8 (well, they
> were
> > > all scheduled for
> > > 10/31, all the database group's work is done but
> the
> > > developers..) and
> > > while I am not the production DBA (a refreshing
> > > change), I still don't
> > > think be away the first few weeks is advisable.
> > >
> > > Rachel
> > >
> > > --- John Kanagaraj <john.kanagaraj_at_hds.com>
> wrote:
> > > > Jared,
> > > >
> > > > Count me in as I live in San Jose, and will
> drop
> > > in on any agreed
> > > > date.
> > > > Gerardo Molina (of SF, still on this list?)
> and
> > > self pulled together
> > > > a group
> > > > of illustrious personalities that even
> included
> > > Steve Adams (and the
> > > > Goddess
> > > > of course!)
> > > >
> > > > It would be a pleasure to meet you after all
> these
> > > years!
> > > > John Kanagaraj
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Jared.Still_at_radisys.com
> > > [mailto:Jared.Still_at_radisys.com]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:19 PM
> > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > > Subject: Get together at OOW
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear list,
> > > > >
> > > > > Though I won't be attending OOW, I will be
> in
> > > San Francisco during
> > > > > those same dates ( 11/10 - 11/15), just a
> couple
> > > miles from the
> > > > > Moscone Center where OOW is held.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are there any plans yet among list members
> to
> > > get together one
> > > > > evening? I think Monday is spoken for
> myself,
> > > but it would be nice
> > > > > to meet a few list members another evening.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jared
> > > > >
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