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Re: Install Oracle 8i on Windows XP?

From: Mladen Gogala <>
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:53:18 -0800
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On 2002.07.28 14:03 Eric D. Pierce wrote:
> On 27 Jul 2002 at 17:03, Mladen Gogala wrote:
> > On 2002.07.27 19:58 Eric D. Pierce wrote:
> > > Silly masturbatory bigotry. I suppose you think it is a good
> > > thing to drive all the NT people to using SQL Server by acting
> > > like a typical snobby *sshole Unix DBA?
> >
> > If someone wants to use SQL*Server, he'll do it. Oracle is too big
> and
> > too
> > expensive for a small corner shop. MySQL and PostGres are even
> greater
> > danger to both of them. Incidentally, I expect Oracle Corp. to bring
> > prices
> > down soon. Very soon.
> So we should expect a whole new bunch of "newbee" NT Oracle
> DBAs to join the list? :)
> haaa haaaaa haaaaaaaaaaa

Hey, you joined and nobody was objecting.

> >As for the "snobby *sshole Unix DBA", yes, I am a
> > Unix
> > guy, I used to be a VMS guy, but Micros*t operating systems simply
> do
> > not satisfy
> > my stability and adaptability criteria.
> So what? Are you saying that your experience eclipses
> everything that goes on in the market?

Where did you derive that from?

> I have nothing against deep-skill-set people and the
> nbecessary role they play as long as they don't try to
> "colonize" every other aspect of the industry with elitist
> b*llsh*t attitudes.
> >Believe it or not, it's the
> > pricing that
> > drives business decision, not a preference toward some specially
> > likable OS. If Oracle
> > doesn't bring prices down, people will be using SQL*Server on NT,
> one
> > way or another.
> I would say it is functionality and price.
> > > If the guys asking the question wanted to learn Linsux they
> > > would have.
> >
> > Well, if you want an operating systems that any idiot can use, than
> > idiots
> > will use it. That particularly applies to Windoze.
> So, extending your statement to its logical conclusion, only
> "experts" should have PCs, and the mass market for computers
> was a social aberration?

Nope. It's not a social aberration. Only, people shouldn't be running production
databases on NT and related systems. Mass market is OK, Windoze is good for editing,
printing and playing tetris, but it is definitely not for databases.

> The reason MS established market domination was not just
> because of monopolistic practices, there was an existing
> vacuum on the low end of the market that MS learned to exploit
> by creating mass market products that the high-skill-set
> elitists/purists weren't inclined towards.

On the other hand, we have pimply faced idiots who think that everything should be done on NT because they don't know anything else. I've been blessed with the several opportunities to interview a candidate with MSCE,OCP
and no unix experience for a DBA position, and I'm fully aware of their "capabilities". Windoze is not for databases, regardless of what you think
about the world of adults (high-skill-set elitists/purists)

This debate is getting increasingly personal and that is why I am going to end
it right now. I tried avoiding a personal conflict in my first reply, but you
insisted. As I have nothing to gain from the squabble, I'm out of here.

Mladen Gogala
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Received on Sun Jul 28 2002 - 15:53:18 CDT

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