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RE: A DBA looks at OAS | IAS vs. Locally-built Apache

From: Jenkins, Michael - EDS <Michael.Jenkins_at_Nextel.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:19:10 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.0049BFEC.20020718131910@fatcity.com>


Let's not forget the new ".mac"

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:59 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Thats the problem with technology today I think.... man, the stacks get more and more complicated....There is UNIX, NT, IIS, Apache, C, Java, Java Beans, Java Applets, .NET, ASP, XML, EI EI Oh...

Oh for the day when one could DBA and develop the most incredible C code and not struggle to understand everything to an expert level.

<<looking for my bottle of extra-strength Excedrin>>

RF

Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
Oracle Database Architect
CSX Midtier Database Administration
Author
Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press - Oct 2002) Oracle9i New Features (Oracle Press)
Mastering Oracle8i  (Sybex)

Clark Griswold: Eddie, has anyone ever told you that you're bad luck? Cousin Eddie: Those were my mother's dying words. But I guess if your body's covered in third degree burns, and your foot's caught in a bear trap, you tend to start talkin' crazy.

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:Scott.Shafer_at_dcpds.cpms.osd.mil] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:35 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Good luck. The "smooth" install is at a grinding halt at the moment, with half the components throwing java exceptions all over the place. Did I mention java sucks?

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210-581-6217

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Freeman, Robert [SMTP:Robert_Freeman_at_csx.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 3:10 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: A DBA looks at OAS | IAS vs. Locally-built Apache
>
> I will see what I can do. Thanks Scott!
>
> RF
>
> Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
> Oracle Database Architect
> CSX Midtier Database Administration
> Author
> Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press - Oct 2002)
> Oracle9i New Features (Oracle Press)
> Mastering Oracle8i (Sybex)
>
> Clark Griswold: Eddie, has anyone ever told you that you're bad luck?
> Cousin Eddie: Those were my mother's dying words. But I
> guess if your body's covered in third degree burns, and
> your foot's caught in a bear trap, you tend to start talkin'
> crazy.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:Scott.Shafer_at_dcpds.cpms.osd.mil]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 5:29 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Robert,
>
> After having just fought a battle with iAS 1.0.2.2 do yourself a favor and
> get hold of iAS 9.0.2 (latest release). I'm installing 9.0.2 as I type,
> and
> it seems to be a lot smoother, albeit more bloated and slower - at least
> the
> install portion.
>
> Scott Shafer
> San Antonio, TX
> 210-581-6217
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Freeman, Robert [SMTP:Robert_Freeman_at_csx.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 4:09 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: A DBA looks at OAS | IAS vs. Locally-built Apache
> >
> > This is Oracle9i Application Server Version 1.0.2.2.3a for NT.
> > So, I'm guessing this is iAS. I have a hard enough time keeping
> > up with Oracle marketing's changing the names/version of Oracle Net,
> > parallel server, and MTS every opportunity they get!!
> >
> > RF
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
> > Oracle Database Architect
> > CSX Midtier Database Administration
> > Author
> > Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press - Oct 2002)
> > Oracle9i New Features (Oracle Press)
> > Mastering Oracle8i (Sybex)
> >
> > Clark Griswold: Eddie, has anyone ever told you that you're bad luck?
> > Cousin Eddie: Those were my mother's dying words. But I
> > guess if your body's covered in third degree burns, and
> > your foot's caught in a bear trap, you tend to start talkin'
> > crazy.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 1:24 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > It really OAS and not iAS? If it is, you need to upgrade your software.
> > There is a published exploit against the version of Apache used by
> > Oracle's latest iAS release. Oracle has released a patch which stops
> the
> > exploit
> >
> > I have built Oracle web servers for years, but I am now of the mind that
> > these things should not be built by DBA's but by webmasters.
> >
> > I am undecided whether to one should go with iAS or construct your own
> > with
> > Apache. The mod_plsql module for instance was not created by Oracle.
> It
> > and things such as forms server and reports server will run against
> such
> > a
> > construction.
> >
> > However, we were advised last week that the Windows NT machines will be
> > converted to XP this year. As a result, I started to look at the 9i
> > Internet Developer Suite. About every third line is a statement to the
> > effect that the 9i database, 9 iAS, and 9 iDS are made to work together.
> > I
> > haven't figured out what one is giving up if one builds their own web
> > server
> > and also installs components for the 9 iAS distribution. Is it just
> > convenience?
> >
> > One reason for giving up the convenience is security. An exploit is
> > discovered and possibly published. Apache fixes the problem. If I have
> > built my own I can get the patch from Apache and rebuild the web
> server.
> > If I'm wedded to iAS I need to wait for Oracle to incorporate the patch
> > into its offering. This could be a matter days to over a week. However
> > weighing-in on the 9 iAS side is the ease of installing a fix. The
> Apache
> > fix for the aforementioned problem required a rebuild; you need
> someone
> > wise in the ways of make files and such. The 9 iAS fix was a simple
> file
> > replacement.
> >
> > Ian MacGregor
> > Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
> > ian_at_SLAC.Stanford.edu
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:18 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > I'm a DBA who is really an old developer at heart. I know a little Java,
> a
> > little Asp
> > (enough, as they say, to be really dangerous!), I used to do C code that
> > now
> > makes
> > my head swim to look at. (I think to myself, what the devil was I
> doing??)
> >
> > Anyway, I've finally found some time and a machine here at work to start
> > playing with
> > OAS just to see what it's all about. Anyone have any good suggestions
> with
> > regards
> > to:
> >
> > 1. Sites, books, white papers and the like with good install tips,
> hints,
> > warnings and the like.
> > 2. Sites, books, white papers and the like Quick getting started tips.
> > 3. Your own "getting started" experiences of things to do or not to do.
> > 5. Anything I should do before I mess with OAS.
> >
> > Optimistically hopeful that this will all just go really smooth and I'll
> > have a cool
> > web page that I can bring up soon!
> >
> > RF
> >
> > Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
> > Oracle Database Architect
> > CSX Midtier Database Administration
> > Author
> > Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press - Oct 2002)
> > Oracle9i New Features (Oracle Press)
> > Mastering Oracle8i (Sybex)
> >
> > Clark Griswold: Eddie, has anyone ever told you that you're bad luck?
> > Cousin Eddie: Those were my mother's dying words. But I
> > guess if your body's covered in third degree burns, and
> > your foot's caught in a bear trap, you tend to start talkin'
> > crazy.
> >
> >
> >
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