Re: RE: larry want to take over your e-mai

You wrote: From their point of view Research and Development is an expense (not an investment).

My daughter used to work as a technical writer for a company that tried to sell a tool to created web sites. She left them some months ago. I asked her the other day if that company is still open and she said she did not check lately but she heard that they fired all the R&D people.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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>
> The "model" for running a technology based company into the ground is to
> promote the Director (or VP) of Sales and Marketing to CEO. This sort of
> makes sense because it is sales and marketing that generates the revenue
> and all of these companies are in business to make money. The Sales and
> Marketing person knows how to sell. They could sell iceboxes to Eskimoes.
> From their point of view Research and Development is an expense (not an
> investment). So no new products are developed, sales falter and, in order
> to keep profits up, the CEO lays off even more developers. Ultimately
> you're trying to sell buggy whips to automobile drivers.
>
> When I worked at Boeing they countered this by insisting that all managers
> have a BS as their undergraduate degree. It didn't matter if it was from
> Holbokien Institute of Technology, that BS was the magic key into
> management. Of course you needed more than just an undergraduate degree
> but every manager did have some understanding of how the technology worked
> and the necessity of R&D.
>
> Take a look at the top tiers of your company. If it consists of just MBAs
> who have Finance, Sales and Marketing backgrounds and who have never
> actually developed anything in the technology that they are managing then
> the company will eventually go under. In most cases the collapse of the
> dot-coms and tel-coms are perfect examples. They couldn't deliver the
> technology. All sizzle and no steak.
>
>
>
>
> DENNIS
> WILLIAMS To: Multiple recipients of
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> 07/12/2002
> 01:04 PM
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> Patrice - I especially agree with your last statement "don't believe there
> is a real solution to this". Remember a technology vendor has 3
> constituents, all of whom think they are the most important: stockholders,
> employees, customers.
> I have noticed that previous slumps in technology sales have tended to
> correlate with periods where there aren't compelling new products to be
> purchased. We could all run our current products for years to come, but
> then
> that wouldn't produce any new sales would it? In the short term about all
a
> vendor can do to show its stockholders is cut employees in response to
> falling revenues. Eventually new products will appear, but that takes much
> longer and if the company goes out of business before then, it is rather
> moot.
>
> Dennis Williams
> DBA, 20% OCP
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
>
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>
> I have mixed feelings about this - I think this is pervasive within the
> high-tech industry, and my gut feeling is that it may help explain why
tech
> stocks are so low.
>
> Do you think they (the industry leaders) will get the message?
>
> I seriously doubt it. Right now the focus seems to be on cutting staff
and
> costs rather than improving products to build loyal customers and increase
> revenues. It's been like this for as long as I can remember. But the
> industry leaders are probably in a bind: Many high quality products
> disappeared because a cheaper alternative came on the market.
>
> Part of the problem is that people think short term, if they see a
> half-finished product at lower cost that markets itself as being "the
> cheaper alternative" for an expensive solution, purchasers tend to pick
the
> cheaper option if they think they can live with it. In some cases if a
> well-known company says "wait 6 months, we are working on this too and our
> product will amaze you," customers actually decide to postpone projects
> based on vaporware promises.
>
> Overall costs may actually be higher when cheaper alternatives are
> selected,
> but in many places no one is focused enough, wise enough or around long
> enough to do long-term assessments. In many cases it's because everyone
is
> too busy to cross the t's and dot all the i's.
>
> It doesn't encourage vendors to build top-quality, long-lasting products.
> In my opinion.
>
> I also don't believe there is a real solution to this, most people are
> happy
> with the status quo.
>
> My CDN$0.02.
>
> Regards,
> Patrice Boivin
> Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
>
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> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 6:15 PM
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>
> Hannah,
>
> Friday is tomorrow, settle down everything will be all right. It's
> just
> his
> Bill complex showing through, you know that MicroSoft mantra, "We will be
> everything to everyone." I'm still waiting for that piece of Windows
> software
> that insures my coffee cup remains full. At least the Oracle based one I
> developed warns me when it's half full and does not GPF in the process.
:-)
>
> Dick Goulet
>
> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> Author: johanna.doran_at_sungard.com
> Date: 7/11/2002 9:18 AM
>
> THAT DOES IT. I am starting training on DB2 right away (Yeah - I can
> actually
> AFFORD to.... no $2000 requirements!!). I want a DB that KNOWS its a DB
> and
> not
> an all-purpose quagmire of inter-related but not really related junk just
> because Larry has a Bill complex!
>
> Oracle and CHEAP cannot be used in the same sentence! Must have been a
> misquote...surpised they dont need a 5000 named user license!
>
>
> Argh...... mental meltdown in process. One... two.... deep breath.... Is
> it
> Friday yet?
>
> Hannah
>
>
>
>
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