I want "no DBA required" so I can retire and relax for a while :)
- "Deshpande, Kirti" <kirti.deshpande_at_verizon.com> wrote:
> I just like that 'dream' of 'no dba required' ;)
> 'cause I have heard enough presenters mention it... the new self
> tuning 9i,
> the new 'everything dynamic' 9i and such......
>
>
> - Kirti
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jared.Still_at_radisys.com [SMTP:Jared.Still_at_radisys.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 3:14 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: Oracle 9.2 spfile catch 22
> >
> > > SPFILE concept is good and it is required for reaching the goal
> of 'no
> > dba
> > > required', but it is still far from being 'ready for prime time'.
>
> >
> > I really don't think the DBA will ever be eliminated.
> >
> > This kind of thing just gives us more time to spend on other
> aspects
> > of the database.
> >
> > Just consider how much database/computer savvy is needed
> > to make runInstaller work. :)
> >
> > Jared
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Deshpande, Kirti" <kirti.deshpande_at_verizon.com>
> > Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
> > 07/11/2002 01:37 PM
> > Please respond to ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > cc:
> > Subject: RE: Oracle 9.2 spfile catch 22
> >
> >
> > I would get the DB to function the way I want first using init.ora.
> Then
> > switch to SPFILE from init.ora, while preserving a copy of working
> > init.ora
> > file.
> >
> > Also, when a parameter is changed dynamically with SCOPE=both or
> spfile, I
> > recreate my init.ora file as the backup.
> >
> > SPFILE concept is good and it is required for reaching the goal of
> 'no dba
> > required', but it is still far from being 'ready for prime time'.
> >
> > I stopped using SPFILE with a couple of my databases when I was
> able to
> > add
> > db_cache_size to an spfile that already had db_block_buffers (two
> mutually
> > exclusive parameters). The next restart of the DB failed. It was
> good that
> >
> > I
> > had kept the init.ora file. I have not installed 9.2 yet, so I do
> now know
> > if such things are verified beforehand and prevented.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > - Kirti
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:49 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject: Oracle 9.2 spfile catch 22
> > >
> > > Thanks to everyone for the ideas on the init.ora. You were
> correct that
> > > the
> > > answer is indeed with spfile. Now I have discovered a catch-22.
> > >
> > > Oracle 9.2, Solaris
> > >
> > > 1. If spfile is created with LOG_ARCHIVE_START = true,
> > > database will not start. Receive the error
> > > ORA-00439 feature not enabled: Managed Standby
> > > 2. Creating the spfile with LOG_ARCHIVE_START = false works and
> the
> > > database
> > > starts. Issuing
> > > ALTER SYSTEM ARCHIVE LOG START
> > > works, but it isn't changed in the spfile, so the next time
> Oracle is
> > > bounced, the archiver doesn't start.
> > >
> > > This is starting to smell like a bug, but I thought I'd run it
> past the
> > > list
> > > on the off-chance someone else has gotten archiving turned on for
> 9.2.
> > > Thanks.
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