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Re: Online vs offline backups

From: Charlie Mengler <charliem_at_mwh.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 04:48:19 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.0048104C.20020619044819@fatcity.com>


As a CYA move we actually do a once a month cold level 0 UFSDUMP backups. Why do we do such a "rediculous" activity? We did it so we could take this set of tapes to any site running Solaris & have a decent chance to successfully restore of DB. Otherwise we'd require a site which is running a close enough version of Legato to restore from the more frequent backup tapes managed by Legato. I'll acknowledge that this approach is not perfect, but when you don't have a honest Disaster Recovery site; you do the best you can.

Ferenc Mantfeld wrote:
>
> I once heard someone actually say 'For peace of mind, perform a monthly cold
> backup'. My opinion is that this is the biggest load of crap I have ever
> heard. If your backup, or more importantly, your recovery strategy has been
> tested, there is zero NEED for a cold backup, as you can fully recover just
> as easily from a hot backup. The same person that advocated a cold backup
> did not back up the online redo logs, so what use was it anyway, since the
> only way they would force open their DB is with a resetlogs option anyway.
>
> Think people, think ! Sometimes it really is not rocket science but just
> pure common sense based on some elementary knowledge.
>
> Regards:
> Ferenc Mantfeld
> Senior Performance Engineer
> Siebel Performance Engineering
> Melbourne, 3000, VIC, Australia
> Only Robinson Crusoe had all his work done by Friday
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 June 2002 3:59 PM
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>
> If you create a new database and do a full online backup (this also includes
> future regular full online backups) is it ever necessary to do a full
> offline
> backup? I have heard conflicting answers, regarding this and am looking for
> some clarification. Don't 24x7 applications always have to execute offline
> backups? Are offline backups done for peace of mind, and if yes why? What
> issues are introduced if only offline backups are issued. In addition, we
> are
> using BMCs Sql BackTrack product and I am not sure if it is a requirement of
> the tool that an offline backup be periodically performed. If you know that
> as
> well, please share. Thanks everybody
>
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