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RE: Upgrade Question

From: Hamid Alavi <hamid.alavi_at_quovadx.com>
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 13:24:16 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.00472C68.20020603132416@fatcity.com>


List,

Can some body tell me what's the usage of oratab & orainst.loc files (sun solaris OS), I am getteing confused because I have two diffrent Oracle_home but just one one Orainventory Directory, It shouldn,'t be for each oracle_home own Orainventory directory??? Appreciate your HELP.
Thanks,

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>> 1. Use a separate tech stack (oracle home) for each instance.
In general I like the idea, but it gets a bit pricey on disk space if you are running say 20-30 instances on a given box doesn't it??

>> 1a. Use a separate unix account for each oracle home for total isolation.
The DBA here is
>> real anal. (BTW, that's me).

I tend to be a bit anal too, but this is perhaps overkill.... :-)

>> 3. Back up the OraInventory directory before and after an
install/upgrade. If this
>> directory get hammered, there is no way to recreate it except to
re-install (Thank
>> You Oracle! <all the sarcasm in the world implied here>).
100% agree with this one.

>> I've also found that it is easier to use one listener for each instance
instead of one
>> listener for all instances.

While I like different listeners for different versions, one per instance seems like a bit
of overkill. Again, 20 different listeners is expensive from a memory POV and I've got to find
20 unused ports.

>> For those on the list that disagree, flame away.
No flames here, just seems like overkill to me.... The number of failures I have gotten
that would have been saved by this amount of overkill would fit on maybe 2 or 3 fingers
in about 12 years of DBA'ing, and I can't remember a production problem in any event that
would have been saved.... cost benefit isn't there based on that.

But hey, I'm all for high availability!!

RF

Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
Oracle DBA Technical Lead
CSX Midtier Database Administration
Author: Oracle9i New Features 

Mastering Oracle8i                        

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Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 2:14 PM
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This is why we:
1. Use a separate tech stack (oracle home) for each instance. 1a. Use a separate unix account for each oracle home for total isolation. The DBA here is real
anal. (BTW, that's me).
1b. I've also found that it is easier to use one listener for each instance instead of one listener
for all instances.
1c. We go so far as to give Oracle Names its own tech stack. 2. For each tech stack install, use a separate OraInventory directory. See metastink for details on
this.
3. Back up the OraInventory directory before and after an install/upgrade. If this directory get
hammered, there is no way to recreate it except to re-install (Thank You Oracle! <all the sarcasm in
the world implied here>).

For those on the list that dissagree, flame away. This is what I've found works the best in this
environment.

In any case, if the 8.1.6.2 is in a separate home, then the 8.1.7 instance upgrade will not effect
it. Since the patch says that there is nothing to upgrade, the /var/opt/oracle/oraInst.loc file
probably points to the 8.1.6 OraInventory instead of the 8.1.7 OraInventory.

Ron Thomas
Hypercom, Inc
rthomas_at_hypercom.com
"The problem with some people is that when they aren't drunk, they're sober." --William Butler
Yeats.  

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I have also two other instances running on 8.1.6.2, This upgrade may be effected from these version of Oracle or not, or this upgrade can be totaly independent from 8.1.6.2
I am a bit confused, Need your advise guy Thanks allot

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Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 9:59 AM
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You generally get this error if the conents of the file /var/opt/oracle/oraInst.loc points to the wrong OraInventory directory.

We just went to 8.1.7.4 to resolve some issues with .2. So far, so good.

Ron Thomas
Hypercom, Inc
rthomas_at_hypercom.com
"The problem with some people is that when they aren't drunk, they're sober." --William Butler
Yeats.

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                      06/03/02 09:18 AM

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Hi List,

Friday afternoon I try to upgrade database(8.1.7.0 on sun solaris) to 8.1.7.4 but after few minutes I got the following message: "There are no Patches need to be applied from the patch set oracle 8i patch set 8.1.7.4.0" and doesn't go thru at all, My question is for installing any patch do I have to install the previous patch first or what? Is there any Prepatch to Install for any patching or NOT? We have two option for upgrading 8.1.7.2 OR 8.1.7.4, Which one is better & safer??
If I want to go for Patch 4,is there any comments or recommendation Really appreciate

Hamid Alavi
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