Aint that the truth, open arms and then some <EG> :)
joe
Jared.Still_at_radisys.com wrote:
> Thanks Joe.
>
> A little OT has usually been acceptable here.
>
> Even some humor. The only time it became a problem
> is when it veered away from having anything to do with
> Oracle and oracle related work issues.
>
> People would start posting ethnic and off color jokes,
> ranting about their favorite pet peeve, ad nauseum.
>
> If you want to do that, go to the off topic list. They will
> welcome you with open arms. We won't even discuss
> how Ross and Eric may welcome you.
>
> Jared
> ( list owner, baby sitter and part time DBA )
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Testa <teci_at_the-testas.net>
> Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
> 01/21/02 05:10 PM
> Please respond to ORACLE-L
>
>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> cc:
> Subject: Re: OT: Yet Another Off Topic Discussion
>
>
> Tim, i'm with you, and since Paul does not evidently know who the list
> owner is here since he's making waves on the very few anymore OT posts
> that are here anymore and that the list owner was the one talking about
> tribbles.
>
> Paul, feel free to start your own list and manage it as you please.
>
> joe
>
>
> Johnston, Tim wrote:
>
>
>>My own 2 cents... Stating a viewpoint such as this and then saying "do
>>
> not
>
>>reply to this" is just not acceptable... This topic has been discussed
>>
> on
>
>>the list innumerable times over the years and it is always a hot bed of
>>discussion... And, it always seems to reach the same conclusion... In
>>summary, keep it on topic but the occasional OT post is tolerated...
>>Anything more then that should not be done or moved to the OT list...
>>
> So,
>
>>here we are yet again... And, here is MY opinion... I view this list
>>
> as a
>
>>community... Not just a technical list... Many people on this list
>>
> have
>
>>been on for years and enjoy to occasionally have some fun... I
>>
> personally
>
>>enjoy the occasional joke or OT thread... It gives the list personality
>>
> and
>
>>allows me feel like I am getting to know the other people on the list...
>>That is why I am on this list and not some of the other discussion
>>
> forums...
>
>>Some other forums operate as you desire... I avoid those... The reason
>>
> is
>
>>that I want to enjoy my job... And the occasional laugh I get from this
>>list has more then once made a miserable day better... If I wanted to
>>purely technical list I would go to another forum... But I don't.... I
>>like this list AS IS... And, if I feel that I am getting to much email,
>>
> the
>
>>delete key works great...
>>
>>Tim
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:10 AM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>
>>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>My 2 cents' worth:
>>
>>Far too much time is spent by a number of users in the Oracle List
>>
> sending
>
>>e-mail of no worth whatsoever. Half the msgs I read are what charitably
>>might be called 'chat'. I understand that there is an off-line site for
>>'chat' - why not use it and stop mucking up the e-mail waves with crap.
>>
> Even
>
>>a small drop in aimless e-mails would be appreciated; 90%+ directed,
>>professional queries and replies would be wonderful.
>>
>>Please do not reply to this e-mail; this is my one-time attempt to bring
>>about a positive change.
>>
>>Thank you,
>>
>>Paul Sherman
>>DBA
>>voice - 781-501-4143 (office)
>>fax - 781-278-8341 (office)
>>email - psherman_at_elcom.com
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:36 AM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>
>>
>>Love is all you need.
>>
>>--- Rachel Carmichael <wisernet100_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>or, of course, the answer to life, the universe and everything is?
>>>
>>>--- Jared Still <jkstill_at_cybcon.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If the question is "Which episode of Star Trek was 'The Trouble
>>>>
>>>>
>>>with
>>>
>>>
>>>>Tribbles'", then yes. ;)
>>>>
>>>>Jared
>>>>
>>>>On Sunday 20 January 2002 01:30, Mogens Nørgaard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Yep. And we also found logoff-triggers in 8i to be useful for the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>same
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>(and additional) purposes.
>>>>>
>>>>>But if I had to guess, I'm sure the answer would be 42 :-).
>>>>>
>>>>>Mogens
>>>>>
>>>>>Chaim.Katz_at_Completions.Bombardier.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Raj,
>>>>>>Maybe another option would be to "audit session" for the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>database.
>>>
>>>
>>>>For
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>each logon/logoff you would see the logical/physical reads and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>logical writes ( in dba_audit_session) by Oracle username (or
>>>>>>osusername). Chaim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Aponte, Tony" <AponteT_at_hsn.net>@fatcity.com on 01/16/2002
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>06:15:24 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Please respond to ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>><ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>>>
>>>>>>cc:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Then you're in luck. I'd recommend starting with Oracle
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>Response
>>>
>>>
>>>>Time
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Analysis from www.orapub.com. Although it won't give you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>exactly
>>>
>>>
>>>>what
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>you need, it will help you get to the next step. Once you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>understand a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>session's response time components, it's a short hop to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>figuring
>>>
>>>
>>>>out the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>V$SESSTAT statistics that make up the CPU time,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>physical/logical
>>>
>>>
>>>>I/O
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>operations and memory footprint.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>HTH
>>>>>>Tony
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:54 PM
>>>>>>To: Aponte, Tony; ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Database Load ... is the main target at this time ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks Tony,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Raj
>>>>>>______________________________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>of ESPN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>art!
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:53 PM
>>>>>>To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>>>>>>Cc: Rajendra.Jamadagni_at_espn.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Raj, sorry for me being confused. Are you trying to measure
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>what
>>>
>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>application executable is doing outside the database (i.e..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>host
>>>
>>>
>>>>system
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>load) or the activity inside the database (i.e.. per
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>user/program/module
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>DB stats)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tony
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
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