RE: The OCP bar is being raised

Here's the link:

http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/index.html?dba9i_upgrade.html

and here's the upgrade path:

http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/index.html?dba9i_track.html

"Oracle 7.3 to Oracle9i Upgrade Path (3 exams) Candidates certified on Oracle 7.3 pass exam #1Z0-010 Oracle8: New Features for Administrators to upgrade to Oracle8, then #1Z0-020 Oracle8i: New Features for Administrators to upgrade to Oracle8i, and lastly exam #1Z0-030 Oracle9i: New Features for Administrators."

This would bring you to 9i OCP level.

-Joe

At 08:25 AM 1/10/02 -0800, you wrote:

>Maybe I am completely misreading this. However, I didn't see the 8 to 9
>OCP upgrade and that is why I said, you'll have to take them over
>again. If I am completely out to lunch and this is just a re-org of the
>Masters and OCP and those 8 OCP can get OCM with 2 classes and a test,
>then I apologize for wasting your time and bandwidth, but from what I read
>(and it was a quick read) even if you are 8 OCP, you still have to have
>the 9 OCA and OCP before you can get the 9 OCM.
>
>--Chris
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe Raube [<mailto:joe_at_fullmoondba.com>mailto:joe_at_fullmoondba.com]
>Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:41 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>Subject: RE: The OCP bar is being raised
>
>Of course, those of us who already have the OCP and want to be called a
>'master'
>just need to take the 2 required courses and then the OCM exam.
>
>When looking at the details, they just split the previous 5 exam OCP into
>two tiers,
>a 2 exam OCA, and a 2 exam OCP which has the OCA as a prerequisite.
>
>The Oracle Master was always available, but without a test -- it just
>required taking ILT courses. They just added a practicum exam to
>make the OCM cert.
>
>I can see your point about this being a 'money grab', but the only new item
>here is the OCM practicum exam -- everything else existed for 8 and 8i.
>
>-Joe
>
>At 07:05 AM 1/10/02 -0800, you wrote:
>
> >I'd say the cost is being raised. Look at the requirements for each. You
> >can't just take the OCM exam. No we would first have to get the
> >OCA. Whether or not we need the entry level cert we have to have
> >it. Then, and only then, can we take the OCP. Then and only then, can we
> >take the OCM and that is after we take these REQUIRED classes from Oracle
> >Ed. So someone the caliber of Steve Adams or Jared Still, has to spend
> >money in a class that they could probably teach from memory before they
> >can get certification and that is after getting 2 other certs that have no
> >value to them. Call me a cynic, but to me, this is nothing but a money
> grab.
> >
> > From the website:
> >
> >--To become an Oracle Associate, you must pass the exams required
> >-- for the Oracle Associate level of your selected job role. Typically,
> >--two exams are required; the first one can be taken via the Internet,
> >--while subsequent exams must be taken in a proctored environment. By
> >--completing your Oracle Associate, you are half-way toward achieving the
> >-- Oracle Certified Professional credential.
> >
> >--To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you must pass all required
> >exams
> >--in your selected job role, including those at the Associate level.
> >
> >--To become an Oracle Certified Master, you must first be an Oracle
> >--Certified Professional. Additionally, achieving your OCM credential
> >--requires attending two advanced level Oracle University courses from
> >--the list shown on this page as well as passing the OCM Practicum exam.
> >
> >--Chris
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: dgoulet_at_vicr.com
> [<<mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com>mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com>mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:16 AM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >Subject: The OCP bar is being raised
> >
> >Anyone care to comment on the following, IMHO it's about time:
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------
> >
> >---
> >Introducing two new levels of Oracle Certified Professional (OCP)
> Achievement
> >
> >A recent *IDC report on IT Education and Training Services quoted database
> >professionals and network engineers as the fastest-growing areas of
> >Professional
> >Certification. And in an October survey from *crn.com on Certification,
> >58% of
> >respondents said that it is very difficult to find qualified Oracle
> Certified
> >Professionals-Database Administrators.
> >
> >To meet this demand, we have recently introduced two new levels of
> >professional
> >achievement to DBAs (and soon to be released to Application and Java
> >Developers
> >worldwide):
> >
> >The Oracle Certified Associate (OCA) -- an entry-level Oracle qualification
> >requiring successful completion of two exams.
> >The Oracle Certified Master (OCM) -- an advanced qualification for Oracle
> >Certified Professionals (OCP), that requires students to take a practicum
> >exam
> >on-sitee at an Oracle University education center.
> >Visit
> ><<http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevel
>
>s.html>http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.html>http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.html
>
>
>
> >
> >for more information
> >
> >IDC, IT Education and Training, Sept 2001
> >crn.com, Certification: What's Hot, What's Not, Oct 2001
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> >
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