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RE: The OCP bar is being raised

From: SARKAR, Samir <Samir.SARKAR_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 07:56:11 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.003EC650.20020110074052@fatcity.com>

Hmmmm.......so all we have
to do is appear for 2 exams and get OCA and then appear for the
remaining 3 exams and
upgrade ourselves to OCP.......or do we need to take all the 5 exams

all over again
??
 
Samir
 
Samir Sarkar
Oracle DBA - Lennon
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Bowes, Chris   [mailto:Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com]Sent: 10 January 2002   15:35To: SARKAR, Samir; 'ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com'Cc: Bowes,   ChrisSubject: RE: The OCP bar is being raised   From
  the website:
  --To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you must pass   all required exams --in your selected job role,   including those at the Associate level.   <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
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  The
  way I read that, you have to have the OCA exams before you can get the   OCP.  So if you take and pass the OCP, until you pay for and pass the   OCA, you cannot get the OCP certificat and recognition and you cannot   even take the OCM.
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  <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
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    face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: SARKAR, Samir     [mailto:Samir.SARKAR_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com] Sent: Thursday,     January 10, 2002 10:28 AMTo: 'ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com'Cc:     'Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com'Subject: RE: The OCP bar is being     raised
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    face=Arial>Chris,
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    Am not clear on 
    this. To b an OCP, we require to pass 5 exams....right ?? So, if we get     the
    OCP Associate after
    passing 2 exams, we need to pass only another 3 exams for getting     OCP
    or do we have to go
    through all the 5 exams all over again ??
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    face=Arial> 
    I think we can directly
    sit for the OCP tests though instead of going through the OCA. But to get     the
    OCP Master, we will
    necessarily have to b a OCP.
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    face=Arial> 
    Do correct me if I am
    wrong though.
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    face=Arial>Regards,
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    face=Arial>Samir
     
    Samir Sarkar
    Oracle DBA - Lennon
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    color=#000080>Schlumberger<FONT face=Impact     color=#800000>Sema
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    samir.sarkar_at_sema.co.uk <FONT face=Verdana     color=#000080 size=1>Phone : +44 (0) 115 - 95 76217     EPABX : +44 (0) 115 - 957
    6418 Ext. 76217 <FONT face=Verdana color=#000080     size=1>Fax : +44 (0) 115 - 957
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      <FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Bowes, Chris 
      [mailto:Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com]Sent: 10 January 2002 
      15:05To: Multiple recipients of list 
      ORACLE-LSubject: RE: The OCP bar is being 
      raised
      I'd say the cost is being raised.  Look at the 
      requirements for each.  You can't just take the OCM exam.  No we 
      would first have to get the OCA.  Whether or not we need the entry 
      level cert we have to have it.  Then, and only then, can we take the 
      OCP.  Then and only then, can we take the OCM and that is after we 
      take these REQUIRED classes from Oracle Ed.  So someone the caliber 
      of Steve Adams or Jared Still, has to spend money in a class that they 
      could probably teach from memory before they can get certification and 
      that is after getting 2 other certs that have no value to them.  Call 
      me a cynic, but to me, this is nothing but a money grab.
      From the website: 
      --To become an Oracle Associate, you must pass the exams 
      required -- for the Oracle Associate level of your 
      selected job role. Typically, --two exams are 
      required; the first one can be taken via the Internet, <FONT 
      size=2>--while subsequent exams must be taken in a proctored environment. 
      By --completing your Oracle Associate, you are 
      half-way toward achieving the -- Oracle Certified 
      Professional credential. 
      --To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you must 
      pass all required exams --in your selected job 
      role, including those at the Associate level. 
      --To become an Oracle Certified Master, you must first be 
      an Oracle --Certified Professional. Additionally, 
      achieving your OCM credential --requires attending 
      two advanced level Oracle University courses from <FONT 
      size=2>--the list shown on this page as well as passing the OCM Practicum 
      exam. 
      --Chris 
      -----Original Message----- From: 
      dgoulet_at_vicr.com [<A 
      href="mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com">mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com] 
      Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:16 AM 
      To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <FONT 
      size=2>Subject: The OCP bar is being raised 
      Anyone care to comment on the following, IMHO it's about 
      time: <FONT 
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      --- Introducing two new levels of 
      Oracle Certified Professional (OCP) Achievement <FONT 
      size=2>  A recent *IDC report on IT Education 
      and Training Services quoted database <FONT 
      size=2>professionals and network engineers as the fastest-growing areas of 
      Professional Certification. And in an October 
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      size=2>respondents said that it is very difficult to find qualified Oracle 
      Certified Professionals-Database Administrators. 
      
      To meet this demand, we have recently introduced two new 
      levels of professional achievement to DBAs (and 
      soon to be released to Application and Java Developers <FONT 
      size=2>worldwide): 
      The Oracle Certified Associate (OCA) -- an entry-level 
      Oracle qualification requiring successful 
      completion of two exams. The Oracle Certified 
      Master (OCM) -- an advanced qualification for Oracle <FONT 
      size=2>Certified Professionals (OCP), that requires students to take a 
      practicum exam on-sitee at an Oracle University 
      education center. Visit <A 
      target=_blank 
      href="http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.html">http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.html 
      for more information 
      IDC, IT Education and Training, Sept 2001 <FONT 
      size=2>crn.com, Certification: What's Hot, What's Not, Oct 2001 
      <FONT 
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